Babies and pit bulls!
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Correct. I am a dog lover myself. Have met a few pitbulls and they are gentler than most breeds I know. If I may cite one breed for instance, cocker spaniels normally do not bite, however, any case involving one that suddenly runs wild and even bite without warning, then this may be traced back to the so-called cocker rage, an unusual temperament that can be inherited by the cockers down the line. In this case, it would be a wise decision to stop breeding that line altogether and try other options to eliminate that flaw in the next generation.
Generally, a health check and a temperament check have to be done before you push your breeding program to ensure you are eliminating or minimizing the chances of a genetic flaw being inherited. Unfortunately, reckless and uncontrolled breeding has caused persistent abnormality issues among dogs. My Belgian Malinois, for instance, was under the care of my relatives and mated with his sister. The resulting pup that was not given away, is showing very unusual behavioral signs such as sudden snapping. Sigh... This is not saying inbreeding is inadvisable considering the dogs' genetic makeup is more diverse than humans', however, due to how inbreeding method tends to magnify both the good points and flaws, this is one method everyone has to be extra careful in doing so. Better if the dog and its lineage are thoroughly checked before you proceed.
Just my two cents.
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I disagree partly. While you do have a point and the risks are all there, let's not generalize all breeds. Some breeds have high prey drive. Now, those are the ones you are not supposed to leave your kids unattended with. Their flailing around and sounds can trigger the hunting instincts of some dogs.
Oftentimes, small to medium sized breeds are observed to have more biting incidents than large breeds. Why? These are the ones often manhandled by kids who cannot understand the pain and discomfort of these dogs, unlike some of the much larger breeds.
Furthermore, with the exception of babies, toddlers need to be taught how to respect the dog. Never allow them to grab the dog suddenly by its tail, fling it around or tease it to the point the dog loses its nerve and bites. Understand that a dog suffers emotional and physical pain just as we do. Aside from that, never allow your dog to dominate you and your family. Let it know its place.
In the end, this comes down to two factors: upbringing and mutual respect between the kids and dogs. I would suggest not leaving your baby unattended just to err on the side of caution, however, do teach your kids (when they know better) to understand how a dog feels when they interact. In the same manner, get your dog accustomed to kids and let it know that it deserves the same healthy level of respect as your kids but not to the point, the dog has to dominate you and your kids.
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x2 the point lupin made, chi's are responsible for the highest number of dog bites per year according to offical figures... small dogs carried in purses are leathal! its all done to sloppy handlers...
id trust a mossler breed over a sighthound if both were untrained around a baby any day... sure both would kill the baby given time but say a grey hound would pounch on the kid soon as it moved a lil bit a masstif would at least paw n play with it a bit first....
sarcasm aside it all comes down to the individual dogs training and temperament and mentality! No dog should ever be unsupervised with anyone who is not able to control that animal. that includes elderly and unable / unfit handlers period...
the child should be taught how to interact with the dog as much as its true vise versa...
id trust a mossler breed over a sighthound if both were untrained around a baby any day... sure both would kill the baby given time but say a grey hound would pounch on the kid soon as it moved a lil bit a masstif would at least paw n play with it a bit first....
sarcasm aside it all comes down to the individual dogs training and temperament and mentality! No dog should ever be unsupervised with anyone who is not able to control that animal. that includes elderly and unable / unfit handlers period...
the child should be taught how to interact with the dog as much as its true vise versa...
I might add that for those wanting guard dogs, an effective guard dog has to undergo training. This is all part of your damage control. Lack of training may result in a guard dog either out of control snapping at anyone but (or even) you, or effectively loses its purpose simply because it cannot understand what you want it to do in the first place. You as an owner should be responsible for what your dog does, regardless of the circumstances.
Ermgravy, it just so happens chihuahuas are often mishandled. In some instances involving "teacup" breeds, their development is stunted physically, mentally and emotionally. Those are the ones more likely to bite than their much larger or "standard-fit" counterparts.
Ermgravy, it just so happens chihuahuas are often mishandled. In some instances involving "teacup" breeds, their development is stunted physically, mentally and emotionally. Those are the ones more likely to bite than their much larger or "standard-fit" counterparts.
Lupin: id agrue the point any dog carried in a purse weather a runt aka teacup or not is a liability going somewhere to bite... dogs are trained to know there place and act accordingly no matter what the breed end of... any thing less is sloppy and unfair on the dog...
DavidW: this isnt really the place to start bashing pits now is it....
DavidW: this isnt really the place to start bashing pits now is it....
My cousins had a cockapoo... he killed squirrels ect and was uncontrolable during these attacks.. they got rid of him by the time their kid was crawling, he went after the baby once... something i wouldnt have chanced to begin with. he had extensive training to prep for the baby and they did everything "right".
any animal with a history of aggressive behavior imo shouldnt be allowed to mess up with a child, its 100% preventable. doesnt matter the breed or size, abused animals like people can not be " fixed". But they can be healed.
I have always had large reptiles, and "dangerous" pets but since haveing my daughter I made alot of choices in reguards to what is allowed in our house, and as she grows i worry if we'll have to get rid of some of our potentially more dangerous fish.
Ive owned my horse for 14 yrs and at 10 monthes our daughter has first met him, while he was xtied and doped up after getting his teeth floated... over protective.
But if anything happened to her from my own short sighted ness ide never forgive myself.
Sometimes being a parent sucks! lol
any animal with a history of aggressive behavior imo shouldnt be allowed to mess up with a child, its 100% preventable. doesnt matter the breed or size, abused animals like people can not be " fixed". But they can be healed.
I have always had large reptiles, and "dangerous" pets but since haveing my daughter I made alot of choices in reguards to what is allowed in our house, and as she grows i worry if we'll have to get rid of some of our potentially more dangerous fish.
Ive owned my horse for 14 yrs and at 10 monthes our daughter has first met him, while he was xtied and doped up after getting his teeth floated... over protective.
But if anything happened to her from my own short sighted ness ide never forgive myself.
Sometimes being a parent sucks! lol
True. I am just saying the chances are more likely with ones that could not develop properly particularly runts. I really really dislike the idea of stuffing them inside bags. They are made to look like "fashion accessories" instead which is the reason a lot of people buy them in the first place.
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