baby bowfin/amia calva or under 6 inches

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mrwinkle;5120297; said:
Uhh, i believe your mistaken especially since there are a local species check this out "LOUISIANA:

§319. Exotic fish; importation, sale, and possession of certain exotic species prohibited; permit required; penalty

A. No person, firm, or corporation shall at any time possess, sell, or cause to be transported into this state by any other person, firm, or corporation, without first obtaining the written permission of the secretary of the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, any of the following species of fish: freshwater electric eel (Electrophorus sp.); rudd (Scardinius erythrophthalmus); all members of the families Synbranchidae (Asian swamp eels); Channidae (snakeheads); Clariidae (walking catfishes); Trichomycteridae (pencil catfishes); all species of tilapia, and carp, except koi or common carp (Cyprinus carpio) and goldfish (Carassius auratus). Any fish which requires a permit under the provisions of this Subsection shall not be returned to the water if taken from state waters, and any such fish may be possessed only by properly permitted people or if the fish is dead.

B. All permits granted under the provisions hereof shall be on an annual basis except for permits issued for triploid grass carp possession and transportation for aquatic plant control. All requests for such permission shall indicate the source, number, and destination of the species named therein.

C. The provisions contained herein shall be enforced by the commission, and its decision in the granting or denial of the permission referred to herein shall be final.

D. No person shall have in possession or sell in this state a piranha or Rio Grande Cichlid; except that, piranha may be possessed and displayed at the Aquarium of the Americas, Audubon Institute, New Orleans, as authorized by a special permit issued by the department, under conditions the department deems necessary to prevent their introduction into waters of the state. Neither the permit nor the conditions and requirements thereof shall be required to be adopted pursuant to the provisions of the Administrative Procedure Act.

E. Violation of any of the provisions of this Section constitutes a class four violation.

Acts 1974, No. 223, §1. Amended by Acts 1981, No. 837, §3; Acts 1981, No. 838, §1; Acts 1982, No. 94, §1; Acts 1988, No. 939, §1, eff. July 26, 1988; Acts 1990, No. 695, §1, eff. July 20, 1990; Acts 1992, No. 528, §1, eff. June 29, 1992; Acts 1995, No. 1142, §1; Acts 2003, No. 91, §1, eff. May 28, 2003."

Those are laws regarding exotic species.... Bowfin is a native species and, while under 16", is protected here. doh! Call (225) 765-2800 and ask them if you have nothing better to do.

ANYWAY, back on topic.
 
Piscine;5120381; said:
Those are laws regarding exotic species.... Bowfin is a native species and, while under 16", is protected here. doh! Call (225) 765-2800 and ask them if you have nothing better to do.

ANYWAY, back on topic.

" Why so serious".... no need to YELL or be so defensive. i will be the first to admit i was wrong and handle the correction with a :) did not mean to upset you, my most sincere apologizes
 
Realize that bowfins from out of state are NOT native species.

Any time you bring a fish over state lines, regardless of what specie it is TECHNICALLY the DNR (or whatever you have) is supposed to approve that. For the most part the aquarium trade gets away with this, but in a case like this, I dont think you will. Even though you will be getting Amia calva, there are subtle differences.

I suggest that you double, triple, and quadruble check the legality of this before preceding.

This almost feels to me as if it could be a bowfin sting. :D

If they are native to your state, why dont you go catch your own?
 
ive been trying to but theyre only found in place that are an hour or mor from where i live i havent had the chance and i dont have alot of fishing knowlege
 
lol, mine is only ~12-13" now, so even yearlings are protected...crappy!
 
mrwinkle;5120499; said:
" Why so serious".... no need to YELL or be so defensive. i will be the first to admit i was wrong and handle the correction with a :) did not mean to upset you, my most sincere apologizes

Me no upset, but interpret as you wish to fit your agenda. :)


FLESHY;5120620; said:
Realize that bowfins from out of state are NOT native species.

Any time you bring a fish over state lines, regardless of what specie it is TECHNICALLY the DNR (or whatever you have) is supposed to approve that. For the most part the aquarium trade gets away with this, but in a case like this, I dont think you will. Even though you will be getting Amia calva, there are subtle differences.

I suggest that you double, triple, and quadruble check the legality of this before preceding.

This almost feels to me as if it could be a bowfin sting. :D

If they are native to your state, why dont you go catch your own?


Realize that any fish that has a scientific name of "Amia calva" is a native species in the eyes of a wildlife official who wants to be trouble.

I agree that you should double check your laws. The best, and quickest way to find out for sure would be to call your local wildlife dept (or whatever), then request it in writing (or find out where it is already written and print out a copy) in case anything ever comes of it.



jpwolf;5120641; said:
ive been trying to but theyre only found in place that are an hour or mor from where i live i havent had the chance and i dont have alot of fishing knowlege

Bowfin are nearly impossible to catch around here from what I hear & from my experience. I've spoken to bowfisherman who have been going out for 10+ years and they say they hardly ever even catch a glimpse of them.
 
theres a guy in trenton that i spoke to that said he catches them alot arround this time of the year. the mating season is right now i hope when i go this weekend i can get my hands on some fry or atleast a small one
 
Bowfin are native to North America and are not considered a gamefish species. You should check with your local officials and ask for a citation out of the law as to how they may be kept or collected.

Bowfins are found in weedy water, generally unfavorable to most fishes. They eat anything. The few that I have caught crushed the treble hooks and starting sawing through the pastic bass plug. The other basically destroyed the Rapala.

Bowfins spawn at particular times of the year. You might want to check with fish farms that handle bass and panfish and see if they know of any dealers. The aforementioned fish and game officials may have heard about where you can get them. Alternately, you could get a seine and see what you catch in boggy ponds and rivers.

I found one reference for $25 for a 6" hatchling, with $27.50 shipping, available only late spring. We are now early summer.

Thought for the day: Celebrity Death Match, Bowfin vs Snakehead!

I think they are great fish from the Cretaceous.

If you really get stuck, I know of a few aquariums that I could call and make inquires, but thats a long shot.
 
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