Baby brook trout?

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People in this thread really need to take a step back and chill. I have a 4.5-5 inch mudminnow in a 2 gallon bucket full of moss with no filter and he's healthy and happy. It's not a permanent home, he's quarantining for columnaris and fungus he caught due to a long transport time. The columnaris showed up on him in a fully cycled 40 gallon breeder with a few spotfin shiners and large northern redbelly dace. I put him in that bucket with a bunch of moss, no filter and some salt so I could at the very least isolate him from the other fish and reduce the chance of the inspection spreading. He's been in there for 5 days now and the columnaris and fungus are completely gone. Some people would love to crucify me and throw me under a bus for temporarily having a 5 inch fish in less than 2 gallons of water, but if the conditions were terrible and he was unhappy, would he heal up as quickly as he did? He's eating like a pig and gets a 30% water change every 2 days.

The guy's trout is only 3 inches and it's in a planted 50 gallon - I'm sure it has enough oxygen. A healthy cycled tank with lots of plants can host a surprising amount of fauna without the system crashing if water changes are performed regularly.




Thank you! Anyway I finished the filter today and they are still alive.
 
There is a huge difference between "still alive" and healthy and happy. My point is if a trout was supposed to be kept in those conditions, why is that not how we find them in nature??

It amazes me, how humans think that we should be able to change the rules of nature by taking fish from a place where they were doing just fine, but instead of providing the same conditions that they were thriving in, we force that same fish to endure whatever we as the all knowing organisms think is just fine.

What anyone else chooses to do is their own business, i guess i just try to provide my captive visitors with the quality of life as near to what they are accustomed to as i can. If i cant do that, i leave them where they are.

Thats just my humble opinion, "Your" Mileage may vary.
 
So Jim, why are you keeping fish? Or anyone else keeping fish?
We don't find them naturally in tanks whether its 50g or 500g.


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Agreed. Brook trout also naturally occur in lakes around here and I myself have netted parr at the shoreline hiding in warm vegetated pools that have an abundance of small insect larvae (mosquito, stonefly, etc.) and tadpoles. Furthermore, they have been found in online ponds in river systems which actually raise the water temperature significantly. Look how many people have aimara, gatf, armatus, alligator gars, arapaima, etc. on here. How many of these people can realistically provide them anything near adequate? I'd say a planted 50g pond for a 3" trout (which he has stated many times isn't going to be a permanent home) is a lot better than what most people on here deem as adequate space for some of those tankbusting monsters.

Either way, he had an air pump in there shortly after putting the fish in and now he has a filter. He came on here with some questions and after receiving answers the fish are now being better taken care of. Isn't that the entire reason this board exists? He could have told him the same information/given the same suggestions without the confrontation/preaching and his response to the information would likely have been a lot more appreciative and thankful.
 
Im not saying that all fish should be left where they are always, but i do think that every effort should be made to provide as close to their natural habitat as you can.

Are you saying its perfectly ok to buy a Red Tailed Cat at 3 inches, put it in a 5 gallon bucket and say good luck buddy???

At any rate, everyone does as they please, and will continue to do so. But as for me, i either do it right or i dont do it.

im done with this debate :)
 
This debate is done. Once again, taking a negative approach when one has the opportunity to educate and assist another member.
 
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