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exoticfishguy;3875214; said:
He WILL pay if you get the authorities involved...don't ask me how I know :)


Everyone seems to have passed over this post.........let us think about this.

If exotic knows this guy, or something about him, why would he say this?

Maybe Tom is familar with the legal system and he is under the direct supervision of the DOC of California........? Maybe, if so, then Mr. Tom would have a PO, his PO would be very interested in any illegal activities that may VIOLATE his ward.

This is just speculation on my part, in reference to exotic's post. You know something exotic? :D
 
RedDwarf;3875482; said:
I can only speak for my personal experience with Tom. I reserve judgement on matter of this type. Just because someone did you wrong in the pass, does it mean that they treat everyone the same as you experienced. I'm sorry that you got burned by Tom but from my experience with him, he has never tried to trick or cheat me. I believe the other members of MFK by now know how you feel about Tom, so I thank you for your remarks about him in regards to your dealings with him. Perhaps people who are local to him are not duped as you say by his b.s. and have better dealing with him in the past. The term Buyer Beware comes to mind in these types of threads, but when your trying to get a deal on something, you always run risk.

To rclark12, I hope you can get your money back, the grief you had to put up with in regards to trying to get people a deal on ST is amazing. I hope everything works out in the end.


Personaly I never delt with Tom but came close to on some NGT's.

You are one of the few that had a good experience with him (I think thats great) but dirt on him from the past and present is coming up on Tom (Cichlidsrool). The negative Transactions outweight the few positive ones (plus the negative ones are big NEGATIVES).

Also this is a hobby and most MFKers trust eachother and someone like this has to be shown to the light so people dont buy from him no more (even if he had 2 or 3 ok/great transactions). Not the type of person we need here:grinno:
 
West1;3875610; said:
Personaly I never delt with Tom but came close to on some NGT's.

You are one of the few that had a good experience with him (I think thats great) but dirt on him from the past and present is coming up on Tom (Cichlidsrool). The negative Transactions outweight the few positive ones (plus the negative ones are big NEGATIVES).

Also this is a hobby and most MFKers trust eachother and someone like this has to be shown to the light so people dont buy from him no more (even if he had 2 or 3 ok/great transactions). Not the type of person we need here:grinno:

Everything you said was fair and correct. I just wished that people would do the reseach on sellers as they did on the fish then we might not have as many people losing money.
 
RedDwarf;3875482; said:
I can only speak for my personal experience with Tom. I reserve judgement on matter of this type. Just because someone did you wrong in the pass, does it mean that they treat everyone the same as you experienced. I'm sorry that you got burned by Tom but from my experience with him, he has never tried to trick or cheat me. I believe the other members of MFK by now know how you feel about Tom, so I thank you for your remarks about him in regards to your dealings with him. Perhaps people who are local to him are not duped as you say by his b.s. and have better dealing with him in the past. The term Buyer Beware comes to mind in these types of threads, but when your trying to get a deal on something, you always run risk.


Hey man, I was never a customer of Tom's (I'm not that stupid)...I know him from before any of this fish stuff. I know how he is and I can guarantee you he treats everyone the same way.

If I knew you personally, we could chat over the phone and I could give you some of the dirt on him in specific detail and tell you how I took care of that clown, but that's probably not going to happen and I'm not willing to air my dirty laundry on a public website.
 
Hey man, I was never a customer of Tom's (I'm not that stupid)...I know him from before any of this fish stuff. I know how he is and I can guarantee you he treats everyone the same way.

If I knew you personally, we could chat over the phone and I could give you some of the dirt on him in specific detail and tell you how I took care of that clown, but that's probably not going to happen and I'm not willing to air my dirty laundry on a public website.

Out of curiosity, how did you know him? If you don't mine sharing.
 
West1;3875610; said:
Personaly I never delt with Tom but came close to on some NGT's.

You are one of the few that had a good experience with him (I think thats great) but dirt on him from the past and present is coming up on Tom (Cichlidsrool). The negative Transactions outweight the few positive ones (plus the negative ones are big NEGATIVES).

Also this is a hobby and most MFKers trust eachother and someone like this has to be shown to the light so people dont buy from him no more (even if he had 2 or 3 ok/great transactions). Not the type of person we need here:grinno:

Amazing how perspectives change.......isn't this your post from the GATF thread?


"Man... stop being such wosses and just pay or dont bother. I say sell them for 300ea then go thru the hasstle. I would just buy a lot and grow them out... even if you sell them for 100bux, you will sell them fast. Sometimes people just dont know a good deal

If I hadent picked up the 5 Armatus, id be all over this with or without pics!!! You are literally 1 month to late for me:cry: as I had plans to buy a min 10 VATFs but they didnt come in... deposit was already down b4 they were ordered.

So.... if I were you, id close the thread and buy as many as you can to sell them at your price to make money off the first batch.... then buy 2 batches with the first batch sold.... it just irratates me to see a good deal with a guarantee and still people asking for more...

Pics or no pics, GATF with Guarantee at that price is a steal (People dont know that GATFs and VATFs are sold just about the same price (dont believe me, ask a vendor that gets them often if GATFs are bought around the same price as VATF)to LFS/Vendors, its them who make the prices in the $100's)

And at 4-5", you can tell the diff between GATF and VATF... its all in the teeth/Head structure!!!

Just my 2cents:D "


Nice turn around:ROFL:
 
reverse;3875714; said:
Amazing how perspectives change.......isn't this your post from the GATF thread?


"Man... stop being such wosses and just pay or dont bother. I say sell them for 300ea then go thru the hasstle. I would just buy a lot and grow them out... even if you sell them for 100bux, you will sell them fast. Sometimes people just dont know a good deal

If I hadent picked up the 5 Armatus, id be all over this with or without pics!!! You are literally 1 month to late for me:cry: as I had plans to buy a min 10 VATFs but they didnt come in... deposit was already down b4 they were ordered.

So.... if I were you, id close the thread and buy as many as you can to sell them at your price to make money off the first batch.... then buy 2 batches with the first batch sold.... it just irratates me to see a good deal with a guarantee and still people asking for more...

Pics or no pics, GATF with Guarantee at that price is a steal (People dont know that GATFs and VATFs are sold just about the same price (dont believe me, ask a vendor that gets them often if GATFs are bought around the same price as VATF)to LFS/Vendors, its them who make the prices in the $100's)

And at 4-5", you can tell the diff between GATF and VATF... its all in the teeth/Head structure!!!

Just my 2cents:D "


Nice turn around:ROFL:


Hilarious!!!!
 
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