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[ChefLublin]

Hey everyone, I am thinking of dusting off my old fish tank and giving it another go! Only problem is i need to buy a new filtration system, and decide on stock.

60x24x18 are the dimensions.

How many Pygocentrus nattereri could I put in here? I was thinking 5 or 6, but want to make sure first.
Any suggestions on Filtration?

Thanks in advance!

 

[jp80911]

is the tank 24" wide or 18" wide? either way p nattereri would work in that size tank.
you have many options for filtration, canister, wet/dry, etc

 

[ChefLublin]

is the tank 24" wide or 18" wide? either way p nattereri would work in that size tank.
you have many options for filtration, canister, wet/dry, etc

The dimensions are: 60L x 24W x 18H

Any specifics on the filtration would be great.I am leaning more towards a canister filter due to better/more media options. The only problem is, the last canister filter I had was horrible in its inability to access the filter efficiently. Should i include a sponge filter as well? I would like to get at least 7 turns per hour (while trying to ease on my wallet). Also, the substrate I have available is fine grain black sand. Is this suitable for these skittish creatures?

 

[bomber]

Hi chef, I happen to have a bad arse brand new eheim 2262(best canister on the market imho)NEVER used... and I live in akron oh. PM me if your interested. This was my back up canister that i never set up.
Welcome back.

 

[ChefLublin]

Hi chef, I happen to have a bad arse brand new eheim 2262(best canister on the market imho)NEVER used... and I live in akron oh. PM me if your interested. This was my back up canister that i never set up.
Welcome back.

Perfect! I did a google search, it will pump out a 900 US gal/h, which is lower than i wanted (7 turns equals out to be 1050 gal/h, If i done my math correct). I am moving to a new house soon, so I have decided to wait until I am established there before i set this thing up. Thanks for the warm welcome. Would 900 gal/h be sufficient for 6 reds?

 

[bomber]

Indeed, and this pump is a work horse. I run it in all my set ups. Very silent too which is a huge plus with the wife.

 

[F1 VET]

the pump is rated at 900gph but after hoses, media etc you lose about half, so realistically depending on media selection and amount your looking at 400-600gph imo. It isn't a bad idea to add an ac110 to the mix for good mechanical filtration and added surface agitation, also gives you more of the turnover your looking for. As said above great filter and if I found one used I would have bought, instead I bought a new fx5 which is in the same ballpark

RBP love current and keeping them active has tons is benefits on health plus it helps keep the poop off the substrate and into the filter, therefore I strongly recommend a powerhead/circulator, for that tank atleast 1500gph. The Hydor Korila is awesome, free s&h too: http://www.petmountain.com/product/...-hydor-koralia-circulation-and-wave-pump.html

A sponge filter is STRONGLY recommended, not only for Bio and mechanical filtration but if the power goes out all you need is a battery powered air pump and your fish are good.

Make sure the sand isn't to fine or it will find its way into impellers and motors in no time. Pool filter sand is a larger grain sand that I cheap, check out your local pool supply store (lees or Leslie's)


My fx5 manages 6 reds fine, but my pothos plant does most of ammonia/nitrate consumption.

Check it out on the link below, imho best 20$ investment you'll ever make! Have fun building the tank and starting a new family! Pics please!



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Cheap way to decrease nitrates and keep your fish healthy: http://monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504763

 

[ChefLublin]

Thanks for all the helpful information guys! Ill be sure to post lots of pics Wish me luck & welcome to any other comments/tips.

 

[jp80911]

If you want more media option and have easier access for filter upkeep then using a sump would be the best. it's cheap, can be highly customized and easy access depends on how you build it.
either way, for mechanical filtration you want high return rate but for biological filtration, lower rate is actually better so that the bacteria has more time to process the waste in water.

 

[F1 VET]

If you want more media option and have easier access for filter upkeep then using a sump would be the best. it's cheap, can be highly customized and easy access depends on how you build it.
either way, for mechanical filtration you want high return rate but for biological filtration, lower rate is actually better so that the bacteria has more time to process the waste in water.

+1

And if you build the sump right you will save $$ vs a canister. Sump has way more media room/configurations and you can pick the pump thus gph/turnover.

There are tons of DIY sump threads around, check em out!


As far as more info check out the piranha stickies, especially the nutrition one: http://monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306686

I find pellets (nls) and frozen talapia fillets to be the best IMHO, I've always avoided live but ghost shrimp make great cleanup crews and is hard for the P's to find and eat them.



Any other questions ask away!



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