Bacteria-In-Bottle

[Spiritofthesoul]

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Do you think this is exactly the same thing thats going on with bacteria-in-bottle which many of MFK members swear by it, mainly Seachem Stability for freshwater tanks?

That those are true aquarium nitrifying bacterias while other cheap Bacteria-in-bottle contains nitrifying bacteria that are taken from wastewater treatment where they are most suited for water with high ammonia concentration?


Here are some info from One & Only website

One & Only Nitrifying Bacteria is different than other bacterial mixes on the market today for a variety of reasons:
• It is the only mixture currently available to the hobbyist that is grown and certified by Dr. Timothy A. Hovanec,
• The ammonia- and nitrite-oxidizing bacteria in One & Only are grown together as a microbial community of bacteria which means they work together more effectively,
• The bacteria in One & Only are grown on a microstructure not as “free” cells in water which helps the bacteria stay active for a longer time period.

And here are the reason they give about why the bacteria in the bottles can survive without any source of food (ammonia) for such a long time (shipping, being on top of LFS shelf)

A common misconception about bacteria in general is that they die if they are not fed. From a human being point of view this sounds perfectly reasonable: if you don’t eat, you die. However, bacteria are not human beings. Bacteria operate much differently than people and have a variety of ways to deal with those times when resources are not available for them to grow and reproduce. Some bacteria when stressed (from say lack of nutrients) form spores and go into a resting stage waiting for conditions to improve. Nitrifiers do not form spores but have other mechanisms to deal with nutrient deficient periods. For nitrifiers, one way to deal with stressful conditions is to forming a protective ‘shield” called EPS. EPS stands for extracellular polymeric substances and is, in simplistic terms, an organic protective shield that research shows inhibits various organisms from attacking and breaking open the cell wall of nitrifiers. Nitrifiers belong to a very old line of bacteria (millions of years) and they have developed ways to cope with very long periods of “drought”. Because the nitrifiers in DrTim’s One & Only are grown on a substrate they can form EPS when needed and last 6 to 12 months in a bottle.

 

[dayak]

good info, and its just strengthen my stand againsts the lengthly procedure of of cycling

 

[lipadj46]

All that info comes from companies selling bacteria in a bottle. Does not make it untrue but still it would be nice if we could have some actual research on these bacterial strains used.

 

[kelman]

The whole bottle bacteria is way too much, if chlorine still exist in the tank and the outcome of those bacteria would be KILLED.

 

[dayak]

i did my fair share of experiment on that, atleast 2 times and i report it in this forum and got flamed and attack, but it work!!
the product i played with was not that doctor product, i played with seachem stability and it works and also API stress Zyme which also works, im sure other established name works as well.
i did exactly what he said, thats before watching that informative video.

 

[dayak]

The whole bottle bacteria is way too much, if chlorine still exist in the tank and the outcome of those bacteria would be KILLED.

i m not sure about that, i am in the experiment of putting untreated water in my tank and yes i am watching my fish and the water closely and i have a bottle of prime ready incase my tap water suddenly has too much of chemical unsafe for fish.
its been couple weeks and no colony wiped out and no strange thing happened to the fish yet..so far so good.
then again my water tap most likely is not the same as your water tap, and i still suggest to treat the water for insurance

 

[Spiritofthesoul]

I'm still skeptical about this. Any experts willing to clarify my doubts?

 

[tokyogasmask]

i did my fair share of experiment on that, atleast 2 times and i report it in this forum and got flamed and attack, but it work!!
the product i played with was not that doctor product, i played with seachem stability and it works and also API stress Zyme which also works, im sure other established name works as well.
i did exactly what he said, thats before watching that informative video.

Give me strength!
It "Worked"?
You just put your Aro through hell for a few weeks.
It looked a state in all the pictures. You need to stop all the "experimenting" FFS!

 

[dayak]

yes bacteria-in-bottle works!!
and what is it the problem with it?
how do you know the fishes are though hell? when they exhibits healthy signs of fish, swim normally and calm?
and importantly no mystery death?!

 

[Bderick67]

Looks as if the Court Jester is trying to advise the king again