Bacterial? I Need help too
- Thread starter Gumby79
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hi Gumby79 how is your ray doing? and if you dont mind me asking ware di you and skynoch get these afected rays?
im assuming these are wild.... could this be from the change of sand from the wild to the glass bottems and then an infection causing this.... On my captive bred rays I can see calisus build up in those exact location IMO its just from them pushing on the bottem of ur tank, and then they got infected
turkeyboy85;2889165; said:
Yes she is wild caught, but she went in a tank with sand and had got the infection in there. I then moved her in to a quarintine tank to treat her.
I posted a pic below I believe that she is healing now
How I treated was. I moved her from the 300 gallon tank into a quarantine tank that has an overflow and can share the same sump as the 300 gallon. So there was no difference in water parameters. Once she had settled in I disconnected the quarantine tank from the 300 gallon, I medicated with maracyn plus exactly as per instructions. I left her like that overnight and tested the water the next morning and found that the ammonia and nitrite was above what they should have been, as the quarantine tank hadn't ran long enough connected to the 300 gallon to cycled. So I reconnected to the 300 gallon to get water parameter back down to normal and did a 33% water change on the whole system.
I stared spot treating the wound with eye droper and would disconnect off of the sump for a hour or so and then reconect 2 times a day and after the second treatment I would do a 33% water change on the whole system. I forgot to mention i did notice my ray was breathing harder when meds where in the tank thats kind of why I would flush out and water change the whole thing. It has been 8 days since I first started treating and have stopped medicating 2 days ago.
A few thing about my ray when I first moved her was because she appered to have stopped eating, she had sunking in head and hip bones showing and her pelvic fins only at that time appeared to be irratated. I was able to get her to eat a 1-2 earthworns a day and once she was quarantined and her appitite would increase daily to now were she is eating prawns again and has bulked back a lot of her original weight and size. I will be keeping her in the quarintine for a while until she has been clear of her infection for a couple of weeks.
My thoughts on why this all happen. Well I originally got two males when picked up at the airport. Same time Rudy and Skynook got theres, boxes wern't label so well. So I quarintined both males got them eating good and about 3 weeks later Rudy and I swapt rays so we had male female pairs. The female that Rudy had was in excilent shape and eating and acking totally normal. Thing was though I did the whole salt and temp raise to 90 as a percation with the two males I got after Skynooks post about his situation and what was recomended. I forgot to turn down the temp back to 82 were I normally keep it. Time passed by all other rays acked fine including my flower and tiger, me and Rudy switch rays and a couple weeks later I got the infection. I was able to lower temp slowly added air bubbles and increased suface water flow, thinking that the reason she stopped eating was stress due to lack of oxygen from the high temp. Her breathing was quite heavy too. I had also given a whole pile of blackworms to all of them a week prior to the discovery and she had ate a pile them, a abnormally large amount. One side of her looked she had a chicken egg in her and shes only about 8" disc diameter.
So in my conclusion I think the stress brought on by the high temp and moving her around from home to home. Along with the large amount of live blackworms I intoduced that could very well have brought in the bacteria or just increased the amount of natural bacteria that already lives in the sand. Thats what I figured lead me to this situation.
turkeyboy85;2889165; said:
Your spot on Turkey boy,its the change of substrate thats caused this injury,and injury it is,its not a desease.What happens is the rays delicate skin isnt use to what its now found itself living on,the pelvic fins as you all know are used like feet to move and direct the ray,this new substrate as simply been a little course at first for the ray,the skin will harden to this as it is already doing and heal up again ,the danger is always secondary infection but you have already over come this threat,ive seen it many many times over 30 years of keeping these fish.
Im sure they will be fine.
