I got these guys when they were only about 2inches. Ive kept them close to 3 years now. With these type of fish you need to be patience with them.
Spawning the kelberi species is pretty huge for me but you can't stop there

. At one point I was going to quit and sell off my whole collection but I kept telling myself I needed to achieve this first. I talk to dieselmack here and there and I really would like to continue the cross that he wanted to do the orino x azuls. Or even the orino x kelberi. But right now space is so limited in my fishroom so this is just up in the air.
I would also like to thank my brother, cousins, and Dieselmack for giving me some pointers on keeping and raising the frys. Keeping the frys alive was the hardest part for me.