ball python subtrate
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Loco, you're talking about a fossorial animal. I agree that some snakes will do better with something to burrow in. Some just want a nice hide and don't have the urge to make their own holes like the hognose snake (after all, its nose is designed for burrowing).
Bloody, I've noticed that my corn really enjoys shredded newspaper as well. And you're right; it really does depend on the snake.
Bloody, I've noticed that my corn really enjoys shredded newspaper as well. And you're right; it really does depend on the snake.
I don't know if bloods are fossorial or not. I haven't kept them, hence why I make that point for almost all discussions on forums. But usually short, stocky snakes are somewhat burrowing. Although sometimes my info might not apply where I would like it to.
dude is the thread starter even on here anymore?i went to the herp zoo in town today and they are all on natural substrates lookin great,most are the same herps that have been their since i was a kid.if you want it to look nice and natural and dont mind spot cleaning and occational total swap out just try brown carefresh or wwhatever these guys tell you,if you dont,try the paper aproach,i wonder if they get good natural tracktion on it but hell if im gonna get all into that because it will just start another war
i know they are captive bread but isnt it cool to kind of simulate their habitat?i could adapt to live in a jail cell for years but you think it wont make me go nuts after a while,thats just for ppl who keep large snakes in small tanks.i know we want to be as smart as actual zoo keepers or herp biologists or whatever but we dont know everything.ive kept snakes for 15 years and im sure i did a few wrong things,i just say what works for me but ill try not to bash your habits but i do like to ask questions because i like to know.loco,howcome every tread your in gets to be a boxing match
you seem very nice most of the time but also very argumentetive to the point where it just never ends,ive been in good threads with you and hope it continues but i dont think im the only one seeing this,your thoughts however are greatly apreciated from your herp keeping experiences and thanks for that.
just lay back a little,i dont think you mean harm.
i know they are captive bread but isnt it cool to kind of simulate their habitat?i could adapt to live in a jail cell for years but you think it wont make me go nuts after a while,thats just for ppl who keep large snakes in small tanks.i know we want to be as smart as actual zoo keepers or herp biologists or whatever but we dont know everything.ive kept snakes for 15 years and im sure i did a few wrong things,i just say what works for me but ill try not to bash your habits but i do like to ask questions because i like to know.loco,howcome every tread your in gets to be a boxing matchyou seem very nice most of the time but also very argumentetive to the point where it just never ends,ive been in good threads with you and hope it continues but i dont think im the only one seeing this,your thoughts however are greatly apreciated from your herp keeping experiences and thanks for that.just lay back a little,i dont think you mean harm.the only thing i see about newspaper is like you said,eas of clean up,what else do you like about it?Dont tell me they read the sports page eithersmmfish;1163204; said:
Yeah I probably refer to my bloods too much. They're secretive, but not fossorial. I believe the OP was asking about ball pythons. Secretive, semi-fossorial but I don't believe they dig their own burrows. Which is why there's nothing wrong with keeping them on newspaper or something similar and providing them with hides. I have seen plenty of them kept on aspen, or eco-earth or something like that, and they didn't burrow. They would utilize any hide boxes given, or they would curl in the corner, but they wouldn't actively burrow.
I'm also not saying particulate substrates should not be used, just that they're not bad for the snakes and they're not something you need to avoid just because they're not "natural." It is extremely practical though, much more so than aspen or eco-earth (which rots like a mother if you're not careful) and cheaper as well--big draw for me, though none of my snakes are on display.
The point I was trying to make is that I prefer newspaper for those reasons. Spot-cleaning removes only solid waste, and I don't want to leave liquid waste in the cage with my snakes.
The point I was trying to make is that I prefer newspaper for those reasons. Spot-cleaning removes only solid waste, and I don't want to leave liquid waste in the cage with my snakes.
the carefresh soaks it up realy good,just a thought.hey a little off topic but are your bloods realy tame?
My adult female blood is extremely laid-back. Not head-shy or anything, though every snake can get upset at times and she's no exception. My baby bloods are also pretty calm, though the female is a little more nervous at times. I've also got a pair of 3-year-old Borneos, and they're pretty cautious. I keep both eyes on them whenever I'm messing with them, but I can pretty much sling my big one over my shoulder and not worry about a thing.
