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A very interesting point. When Anton Lamboj spoke at the BIG FISH DEAL presented by CCA he had just returned from a trip to Colombia. He described in detail that the Gorilla forces were not ever going to allow Americans to enter their lands and if they were to enter they would be captured and held at ransom or killed. They walk around with AK47's and are deathly serious about protecting their lands. They are nice enough to other foreign citizens but not to Americans. I can only imagine the horror of being found in a place where you were not supposed to be collecting fish. Good luck getting out alive.

I think that if you actually go to these dangerous countries collect fish, bring them back, breed them, distribute them throughout the hobby for everyone to appreciate. .. you should be praised not trashed. So long as what your doing is legal I see no issues with it at all. I appreciate it when a vendor has collected the fish him/herself. Especially if the individual put themselves in harms way in an effort to collect a rare specimen. Heck I appreciate it even when they aren't in harms way. Why is it that when someone does something new or different they are chastised for it instead of sitting back and listening to the person the consensus is to attack them publicly.

On the flip side of this I understand the frustration of true hobbyist having to hear misinformation from uninformed and downright untruthful individuals who spread lies for the sake of popularity. In this case I think any questions could be answered through pm. Not on the forum. And if the answer to your question isn't what you wanted to hear then move on and formulate you own opinion of the person and what they are doing. If all of the hostility is because people don't like secrets when they buy fish I would love to see this same passion and take this same attitude and direct it at the people in office in Washington DC and all of the secrets and lies they tell.

\RANT COMPLETE/ now stepping away from soapbox.

Drew
 
While some want to cultivate the idea that "discovering" and bringing "new" fish to the hobby is the exclusive domain of a handful of swash-buckling adventurers, reality is that just about anyone can do it with some planning and the right permits.

Collecting and bringing back fish comes down to: 1) Planning the trip (logistics, accommodations, ecotour/fishing guides, etc.) and 2) Having the proper permits from the USFWS and country of origin to satisfy the Lacey Act

I'm not sure why there needs to be secrecy, drama or intrigue around either of these. I've been more than willing to share "how to" collect in Uruguay.

Why wouldn't fellow hobbyists share information and best practices to make it easier for others (i.e. not have to re-invent the wheel) when collecting fish?

Sure there are dicey places in Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Washington, DC... but there are lots of safe ones. I've been to all of those places. And lived to tell ;)

Mexico is a common, safe and relatively easy vacation destination. Wouldn't it be great to (legally) bring a few fish back? Duane and others have shared some great locations to fish. Wouldn't it be great if there were some pointers for what forms are needed to take the fish from Mexico? Again, it doesn't need to be some big secret...

It's really easy for the USFWS to make it really hard for hobbyists to bring fish back from Central and South America (even with the proper permits from the country of origin). It just takes a few bad actors. Or the perception by USFWS that people are skirting the rules. Same with countries of origin. Which is probably why many countries have made the permitting process more complicated than it needs to be.

Matt
 
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