i found them in my local grocery store. i would suggest looking at a grocery store in a neighborhood that has a more culturally diverse. where i use to live was predominantly white but when i moved to a neighborhood with more black and people africa i noticed that the meat selection was a little different which was great for me because i was having trouble finding the stuff i needed for my homemade food and there were no butchers near me. although the check out girl did look at my funny when i told her what i was going to be doing with the beef kidney (grabbed my mistake was right next to heart) and the beef liver lol she thought i was nuts lol good luck hope u find what your looking for