Beginners Marine tank kits

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I'll toss in my personal experience and hope it helps. Keep in mind biased as heck...

On the beginnings of saltwater fish keeping, the all inclusive systems are not required but do have some pro's and con's. For a fish only system, as suggested the freshwater setup is pretty close. Carbon filtering can't touch what a good amount of live rock and sand are capable of. When I had mine running, I left a hang on the back filter running without the carbon cartridge and filled it with live rock rubble. Not so much for filtering but breaking the water to battle the film that tends to develop at the water surface. Where one can get away with 3-5 times water turnover per hour in freshwater, I've always aimed at least 10 times water turnover with salt. Sometimes higher depending on what you have. As such it tends to be easier to add a pump into the tank just for current. This is also a great way to tie in a protein skimmer. I've found hang on the back skimmer's don't pull their weight as well, and even the nano-skimmers are flighty in their effectiveness. Simply broken down, the skimmer will pull the wastes left over from food and fish leavings. You can run a system without, but you'll have to do serious water changes frequently. Adding to the current is easy however, as an overflow line out to a sump/skimmer provides space for filtration and the return line back increases flow.

If you are just going fish only, a nano-system is serious overkill. They also have perks and problems. On the beneficial side, they provide a great beginner space for coral keeping. The stock lights are enough for low maintenance, hardy corals. The system is all inclusive, meaning that you can add and take away various complementary methods without having to re-design your system everytime. In my case, I removed the bioballs, added live rock rubble, a nano-skimmer, a ventilation fan and several filter pads by simple "put in, take out" practice.
On the down side, saltwater is much less forgiving. The lights on the systems will raise the water temperature. Stock biocube raised mine 5F, the red sea max 10F. Many of the fish acceptable for the smaller system like cooler water, 70-80F tops. More often than not my air conditioning has to be on lest the system overheat. With this heat, and the lights so close to the water you'll deal with evaporation. Go with a refratometer for your sg, it will be a life-saver. With anything under 50gal, just to be safe you'll want to keep 10 gallons of saltwater in case of emergency. Always keep RO water on hand for the top offs that will be required. Without corals you shouldn't have to worry about the various chemicals requried for health, so you'll save expense like mad.

In short, from my experience, prebuilt nano's are easy to keep, but you will deal with lot's and lot's of mini-crisis. For a first tank go with the standard system that you have to piecemail together. You will save on financial expenditure and pick up knowledge that will assist in larger builds later on. You'll still have the mini-crisis, but the solutions won't be proprietary replacements. Good luck with your tank, and share some pics of the process.

Swim on!
 
get a tank (bigger tanks are more stable) get a filter rated at least 10x tank volume. get a hydrometer/refractometer to measure the salinity. get a couple of powerheads too, for extra flow. the less deadspots in the tank the better. also get some live rock and some sand. about 1-2 lbs of rock per gallon.

ok then set up tank, half fill tank with water with an SG of 1.024 (check with hydrometer/refractometer), add live rock and arrange it to your tastes. add sand around the rock. do it this way so if anything burrows it wont collapse your rockwork, or be crushed, as the rock is already on a solid base. add the rest of the water. add some prawn to the tank to kick off the tank cycle.

check back in a few days to see where the deadspots are in the tank. point your powerheads at those areas or direct their flow to kick up any debris so the filter gets it. basically like in a FW setup.

after about 10 days check the water paramiters if everything is at zero (apart from pH :) ), if they are do a 50% water change and you can start adding livestock. no corals for at least 6 months though. let the tank become stable first.

you wont need a protein skimmer. i dont have one. i have something else called a water change :) . about 20% every two weeks should do if you have a light bioload. if not do 20% a week.
 
Itsadeepbluesea;3239421; said:
don't forget a protein skimmer

Protein Skimmers are optional. Some people swear by them and others couldn't care less about them.

I personally don't like protein skimmers but that's my opinion. I have a 280, 150, and a 55 none of them have skimmers.
 
from my understanding it depends on the bioload, from what my saltwater friends told me.
skimmers = tangs,triggers,puffers,ray, etc.
no skimmers = little fish, clowns,damsels,shrimp,crabs,starfish
 
thebase#1;3457710; said:
could someone please explain to me what a dead spot is?
thanks

a place in the tank that has no or very low water movment and in turn does not remove the algae and waste the water movment should pick up.
 
GetITCdot;3316953; said:
Protein Skimmers are optional. Some people swear by them and others couldn't care less about them.

I personally don't like protein skimmers but that's my opinion. I have a 280, 150, and a 55 none of them have skimmers.


You dont need them. I have them on some tanks. Its basically if you want your params to be really good and cut down on water changes... In the end if you buy the skimmer you will save money of salt mix and water changes.... You can keep paying for salt and other things to help your filtration, or just buy a skimmer.

Its kind of a :screwy: concept to me.
 
I have my tank running for a about two days, from what I heard from the people at my lfs they said using live sand, along with live rock is filled with bacteria and I can start adding starter fish like damsels very soon like in two days. Also about the protein skimmers. I purchased one and it seem to be circulating the water well but I noticed a leak so I'm gonna ex change it for another one. I know from people, skimmers may cost a lot, but in the long keep your fish healthier and you save money on salt and can loosen up on water changes...lol
 
ive had lions, triggers, groupers, bamboo sharks all with out skimmers i personaly think their a pure wast of money your better investing that extra money in a better filter and better quality live rock also i have done tiny 12 litre aquariums and they have been fine its all about keeping up with maintance
 
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