Beneficial bacteria in a bottle

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swear by stability
 
alright, so i think I can safetly say this bottle of stability is not working. I've been dosing exactly as the bottle instructed, and even set up a ten gallon tank just to cycle, so I wouldn't have to do waterchanges. I will say I think somethings up with my tanks, as it is taking unusually long to cycle, granted I havn't had to actually cycle a tank in a few years. I did buy a 2nd bottle of stability in case I got a dud, any suggestions? I'm shaking the bottle like crazy before I dose, and I even added crushed coral to my tanks to up the gh/kh so it wouldn't slow down bb growth.
 
I swear by a product called "nitr-out" or something like that. Its actually a product sold to get rid of excess nitrites in your aquarium, but its the ingredients that matter

Nitrobacter sp. and Nitrosomona sp.

These are, of course, the bacteria you want to have in your tank to establish a biological filter.
I used this to seed my first tanks then use substrate from those tanks to seed subsequent tanks.

It has worked very well for me.

I also think aqua design amano has a product called "bacter" that is the same thing, It obviously works well for him, but I've never tried it, as its probably very expensive and comes with a haiku
 
carsona246;4939705; said:
alright, so i think I can safetly say this bottle of stability is not working. I've been dosing exactly as the bottle instructed, and even set up a ten gallon tank just to cycle, so I wouldn't have to do waterchanges. I will say I think somethings up with my tanks, as it is taking unusually long to cycle, granted I havn't had to actually cycle a tank in a few years. I did buy a 2nd bottle of stability in case I got a dud, any suggestions? I'm shaking the bottle like crazy before I dose, and I even added crushed coral to my tanks to up the gh/kh so it wouldn't slow down bb growth.

Did you add ammonia?
 
yea, I'm not fishless cycling my tank somehow became uncycled, so I still have the tank's occupants. I have a ten gallon running fishless now that I'm adding ammonia to, but so far no nitrites in that tank either. I'm almost done with the 1st bottle, and will be using the 2nd bottle once that runs out. Hopefully I just got a dud bottle, and the second will speed up the cycle.
 
Wait I don't understand your previous statement. So there are fishes in the tank now?
Have you check your nitrates? For all we know it could have been cycled already.
Thats why you are not seeing any nitrite.
 
yes, I'm checking nitrates, I understand the concept of cycling. I have 2 tanks up and running right now, the 40 breeder has 2 axolotls, my ten gallon previously had one of the 2 axolotls, but I moved it to the 40 to allow my ammonia level to go up without harming anything. I've been dosing stability in both tanks as directed by the bottle, and added crushed coral to up the kh/gh because I have very soft water, and I thought I'd read soft water slows down the cycling process. I still get ammonia readings, so regardless of nitrates(which I have none) I would still have an uncycled tank. I'm almost through with bottle #1 of stability, any tips for using bottle #2 as the poor results may possibly be due to user error. I've been shaking the bottle like crazy before dosing, and can't really think of anything else I might be doing wrong. If bottle #2 doesn't work fairly quickly I'm gonna have to try something else, I've been cycling for like a month now, and I havn't even had a nitrite reading
 
i doubt it was the amquel that caused your recycle.
the ammonia neutralizers only means that it unbinds the ammonia from the chlorine/chloramine and neutralizes it's lethality to fish. it's the same as using seachem prime/safe or other quality products that do similar tasks.

whatever you do, don't be misled into anything like nutrafin cycle, it's utter bs.
 
lol, it's very possible it was not the amquel, it's just the only thing I can think of. I've actually talked to a petstore, and they let me run a filter on one of their tanks. The plan is to run the filter in one of their tanks for a week, and then stick the filter in my quarentine tank.
Question though, I plan on quarentining cherry shrimp in that tank starting tuesday. I'd prefer to not be doing water changes in my 40 breeder for another whole month, as it seems my tanks are reluctant to cycle(still have no nitrite readings). How long would I have to quarentine filter media before it's safe to go on the 40 breeder?
 
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