Beneficial Bacteria temperature?

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in a lot of the stores around here, they use display tanks are in units like the picture shown below. these kind all share the same water through a sump system in the bottom. either way, there is always a chance at introducing somthing unwanted into your tank. more than likely, they use the same nets and stuff to catch them anyway. i would get them at about two inches or so long. some simple comet goldfish will work just fine if that is the rout you would like to go. just take a good look at them before you buy. if they look sick, get somthing else.
 
Beneficial bacteria are sessile, meaning they live on a substrate (gravel, sponges rocks, etc) they do not live in the water column.
So putting old water from a tank does not help in seeding, and I believe using a seasoned sponge, or part of one would probably be more effective than simply squeezing one out.
When I worked for a water distributor, we did analysis of biofilm in our cities water distribution system because we use chlorimine as a disinfectant.
The average temp of our distribution water is between 5'C and 10'C , and the biofilm contained plenty of nitrosomonas and nitrobacter .

While I absolutely agree that placing an old seeded filter, rock, gravel etc. inside the tank or canister is the best way to go about jump starting a cycle...does water squeezed out from an old filter really not help? I'm just wondering because you said that the bacteria is sessile, meaning it is attached or fixed to something (sponges, gravel etc.) and not found in the water. However, I have used nitrifying bacteria in a bottle ie. nite-out II, nutrafin cycle, and there are others such as Dr. Tim's one and only and like Jaws mentioned, the Tetra safestart. These are bottles filled with mainly H2O and beneficial bacteria. Many of us have had success with these products, and they don't come on gravel, sponges or rocks. Just in plain water, like the BB I assume that OP wanted to harvest by squeezing out his filter sponge. I'm coming from a place of genuine sincerity when ask...have I (we) been wasting our money on these products? I know there are those who absolutely love these solutions and others who think of them as a kind of snake-oil that we are blowing our money on? What say you?
 
in a lot of the stores around here, they use display tanks are in units like the picture shown below. these kind all share the same water through a sump system in the bottom. either way, there is always a chance at introducing somthing unwanted into your tank. more than likely, they use the same nets and stuff to catch them anyway. i would get them at about two inches or so long. some simple comet goldfish will work just fine if that is the rout you would like to go. just take a good look at them before you buy. if they look sick, get somthing else.
My LFS use individual filters in all there tanks. If i do add one goldfish after squeezing out the sponges into the water, adding some small rocks from a cycled tank, how meny water changes should i do?
 
i have heard either way. the way i read it though is putting old tank water in a new tank wont help with bacteria. squeezing a used sponge in the tank will help but is not as effective as putting the whole sponge in the tank. i have used this stuff in the past and it really does work. my tank never even clouded up when i used this stuff. is this the stuff you are talking about jaws?
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that al depends on how well seeded your items were that you put into your tank. for a 140 though, you are gonna need much more than one goldfish. the only way to tell when the water needs to be changed is to monitor your ammonia levels. i use one of these. it makes it really easy.
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i think this is what he means
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i read it wrong. i thought that he said smart start. i have never used the tetra stuff. i do know that smart start aint no joke. it works great. gotta shake it up real good before you use it to get all the stuff on the bottom mixed in real good. it also has an experation date on it, makes me feel better that it hasnt been sitting back in a stock room for 2 years.
 
that al depends on how well seeded your items were that you put into your tank. for a 140 though, you are gonna need much more than one goldfish. the only way to tell when the water needs to be changed is to monitor your ammonia levels. i use one of these. it makes it really easy.
seachem-ammonia-alert.jpg

OMG, That is freakin' awesome! I had no idea you could get something like this (besides the expensive digital salt water sensors). I'm literally ordering one right now on Amazon. Thank you for posting this! Quick question- If you use seachem prime then you know that if you use an API test kit, it will give you false positives on the Ammonia after using the prime. Because this is made by Seachem, does this eliminate those false positives from using prime...as they are both made from the same company?
 
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