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Hey robmcd,
If you want something primitive what about a South American lungfish (L. paradoxa) of the lungfish species it tends to be tolerant of tankmates unlike its African cousins.Just a thought-Anne
 
FIRST TIMER. I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT BICHIRS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BREED? WHAT ARE THE SIGNS? THEY SWIM VERY CLOSE TOGETHER AND THE SMALLER ONE NUDGES THE OTHER ONE ON THE PECK FINS. OR IS THIS A SIGN OF SOMETHING ELSE? THANKS
 
what species of bichir?how old are they?
Also go read the primer in the sticky section breeding is covered tho I need to add a cpl things
 
robmcd;837095; said:
Are there any Bichirs from south america? Thanks for any replies to this ?.

To go back to your original question robmcd, if you know anything about Plate Tectonics, then you know at one time there was one large land mass. Africa and South America were once joined together. That's a major reason the two continents have many similar fish! Both have lung fish, both have cichlids, there are similarities in catfish families, and I've always wondered if you go back far enough if bichirs were related to snakeheads. They share alot in common! Or maybe they just took parallel evolutionary paths! So if you want a "bichir" from someplace other then Africa, snakeheads are about as close as you're going to get !:D
 
No, snakeheads and bichirs are not related at all. Bichirs (family Polypteridae) are a much more primitive fish than snakeheads (Channidae). Although this is a gross oversimplification, they (bichirs) are placed somewhere between the lungfish and the gars and bowfins on the evolutionary ladder. Snakeheads are more closely related to the gouramis, climbing perch and Ctenopomas.

While both genera breath air, the organs used to do so are completely different. Snakeheads have a labyrinth organ in their gill chamber that is similar to the one found in gouramis and the like. Bichirs have a paired swimbladder that functions like a primitive set of lungs.

The similarity in form you see is the result of a phenomenon called Convergent Evolution. This is when completely unrelated species (often on different continents) have evolved similar morphology to take advantage of similar niches (a niche is basically a combination of habitat and lifestyle).

Both bichirs and snakeheads are predatory fish that inhabit oxygen poor waters and can survive periods of drought by burying in mud or moving to other pools, etc. Their methods of hunting and prey capture are very similar to each other, they are torpedo shaped with a broad, powerful tail for quick attacks, but they are completely unrelated. Interestingly, the bowfin (Amia calva), which is also completely unrelated, fills a similar niche here in North America (you could almost call them the American snakehead).
 
beblondie;838309; said:
No, snakeheads and bichirs are not related at all. Bichirs (family Polypteridae) are a much more primitive fish than snakeheads (Channidae). Although this is a gross oversimplification, they (bichirs) are placed somewhere between the lungfish and the gars and bowfins on the evolutionary ladder. Snakeheads are more closely related to the gouramis, climbing perch and Ctenopomas.

While both genera breath air, the organs used to do so are completely different. Snakeheads have a labyrinth organ in their gill chamber that is similar to the one found in gouramis and the like. Bichirs have a paired swimbladder that functions like a primitive set of lungs.

The similarity in form you see is the result of a phenomenon called Convergent Evolution. This is when completely unrelated species (often on different continents) have evolved similar morphology to take advantage of similar niches (a niche is basically a combination of habitat and lifestyle).

Both bichirs and snakeheads are predatory fish that inhabit oxygen poor waters and can survive periods of drought by burying in mud or moving to other pools, etc. Their methods of hunting and prey capture are very similar to each other, they are torpedo shaped with a broad, powerful tail for quick attacks, but they are completely unrelated. Interestingly, the bowfin (Amia calva), which is also completely unrelated, fills a similar niche here in North America (you could almost call them the American snakehead).


WOW!! Your not that blonde! (JK) That was some serious biologic and anthropologic knowledge that you just dropped! And hapdude, I never think too much about plate techtonics cuse Im living on like 20 fault lines and if I did , Id die young due to stress.I would also have to think twice about keeping so many tanks.Thanks for the replies all!!
 
Wait a minute, I just had a vision of a large tank, at least 180g, and Im seeing also a couple of large Bichirs, a large Distochodus, and a couple of vittatus ATFs, and dense foliage (live of course). A new biotype project!!
 
Anne,
Thanks for all the info. Ive only just got my first bichir and I think its the best fish ever.I have only one in a small tank but from what I read in that link you sent me most are good sized. How fast do they grow? Mine is about six inches in length and he's on a diet of 10 guppies a week and an ounce of blood worms paced out over the week. He eats all the guppies in a day or two should I feed him more?
thanks again,
Madsculptor
 
X24;837520;837520 said:
that isn't geeky stuff? jebus christ, i hardly understood half of it! lol just goes to show you how anne is on a whole nother level of bichir keeping.
I agree, Anne your knowledge of Birchirs is astounding! Thanks for sharing all your wisdom.
 
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