Mumma is about 70cm across the disc, dads about 40cm. As for age I cannot be certain as I bought her when she was already breeding age. I know who the different owners were and what shop they were originally bought from and at best can put her age between 4 and 6 years. She was in a 2x2 meter tub with other adult motoro's and got hammered overnight. The damage was pretty bad, I moved the other rays out to give her some space and she didnt eat for 3 days then this. I have bred alot of motoro's am aware that they dont eat before birth but I didnt think she was due yet and I thought she was going to die. Will try get some pics of the parents tomorrow, its easier on WC day.