Big longnose gars

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I'm thinking about trying again with Longnose. They're really common in the Nanticoke River in my state, but it's actually seems to be dominated with larger 3-5 foot specimens. I'd know I don't want something tiny, but not that massive either so that it could go with my other grow out gar species I have that are all around a foot long.

The question is figuring out a good math of determining the right size based on average growth rate I would want to start with to get him stay on track with my other gars that would make the perfect community harmony. I know Longnose grow quicker and bigger, but to me it takes a longer Longnose to equally compare to the girth and size of other gar species because of their skinnier more stretched out features IMO. It gives me a math headache, because the gar species seem to vary so much in their growth and sometimes within the same species. In example, the Shortnose Gar I have now was growing considerably faster than the Florida Gars, but now they seem to be around about the same growth rate.

I mainly just don't want any incidents like what happened years ago when I foolishly kept an attractive Longnose Gar specimen (my favorite gar at the time) with similarly sized Alligator Gar and witnessed an over excited snap during feeding time. Florida and Shortnose Gar might not have the same comparable jaw pressure and size of an Alligator, but still... I don't want that happening again.
 
Gets me how people here and elsewhere bowfish with the intent to exterminate fish that are so desirable to some in aquarium (especially larger sizes) and such as a family such prehistoric survivors. It's so strange to me, how this country is so in love with a certain rather typical Perciformes species simply because it has a larger mouth (well, I like too, but not exclusively..) and associate it with American pride even when often times it's not native in your area (in example, Largemouth Bass = not native to Delaware), but give no love to the so very unique gar species we have or sometimes even fish with similar sport quality to LMB like the chain pickerel/jackfish.

I've seen nearly all black (not melanistic, but almost as black) Spotted Gars and such vibrant, attractive Longnose Gar in videos and pictures bowfished that a lot of us would just salivate over, and these guys act are doing us all a service.

It's cool that Snookn21 is offering us another kind of service...
 
Funny thing is here in Indonesia I cant seem to find baby longnoses; only 60cm up.
 
Never seen one that big, though I've seen one around the 10-inch mark.
 
here in the Great Lakes, longnose gar of all sizes are commonly found around the shallows. very easy to get here, mostly wc.
 
E_americanus;4429731; said:
agreed.

most LNG's that are coming through the hobby as YOY fish aren't getting up to the large sizes anyway...these gars really seem to stunt moreso than the others, particularly the males. i haven't seen a captive-raised-from-YOY LNG over 20" personally, i'm sure some exist, but they are few and far between.--solomon

Mine was 34 1/2" when measured in Feb of 2010. Got him from a customer of Jerry Drapers (The Tropical Fish Room-Brantford Ontario, Canada) in 2000 at about 11". So he grew only 23 1/2" in the first 10 years.

Here is a video moving a few fish including the Lepisosteus osseus from my 15 to my 52,000. http://www.youtube.com/user/arapaimagg?feature=mhum

He is doing really well in the bigger tank and it is amazing how well he catches cichlids.
 
My two remaining YOY longnose gars are about at least 18" now according to my parents (I don't have access to the gars currently due to college). I got the gars back in June when they were about 1.5" long, and they were 14" and 12" by the middle of August. At one point, they were growing an inch every few days!

John, I'm interested in any larger gars that you may have for sale in the future, by the way.
 
Im going out on an expedition to collect gars, amia calva, and tire track eels this weekend.

I will post what I get when I return ;)

The latest crazy discovery I found are the PEACOCK TIRE TRACK EELS they are invasive down in the Fl everglades. So neat! I found them 8"-12" the last few trips.

They hide right on the edge of the water/bank in the over hanging weeds.

Thanks,
John
 
snookn21;4516619; said:
Im going out on an expedition to collect gars, amia calva, and tire track eels this weekend.

I will post what I get when I return ;)

The latest crazy discovery I found are the PEACOCK TIRE TRACK EELS they are invasive down in the Fl everglades. So neat! I found them 8"-12" the last few trips.

They hide right on the edge of the water/bank in the over hanging weeds.

Thanks,
John

Awesome, gars and bowfin!
 
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