BLACK AROWANA

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pounder808;1444170; said:
dude I am not trying to start a beef but if you go to most of the lfs here they have silvers and jars right now and 1 has a couple of blacks also. 2 lfs that are owned by the same person just got a shipment of 30 3" jars and selling them for $30 a piece.
Mind if I ask but..wheres the place were they are selling the blacks??
 
HI has 3 seperated lists
1,LIST OF PROHIBITED FISh

2,can be imported with a permit from the Hawaii Dept. of Agriculture for research and exhibition purposes

3,can be imported with a permit from the Hawaii Dept. of Agriculture for commercial or private purposes.

The arowana is on the same list as, stingrays, Pirhanas. If you notice, You cant obtain a permit for the restricted SP. Here is list


HAWAII:

LIST OF PROHIBITED FISH

CLASS Chonodrichthyes
ORDER Carcharhiniformes
FAMILY Carcharhinidae
Carcharhinus nicaraguensis shark, Nicaraguan
freshwater
ORDER Myliobatiformes
FAMILY Dasyatidae
Dasyatidae (all species in stingrays, freshwater
family)
ORDER Orectolobiformes
FAMILY Orectolobidae
Orectolobus maculatus shark, spotted carpet;
(shark, wobbegong)
Orectolobus ornatus shark, banded carpet
ORDER Petromyzoniformes
FAMILY Petromyzonidae
Petromyzonidae (all species in lampreys
family)
CLASS Osteichthyes
ORDER Amiiformes
FAMILY Amiidae
Amiidae (all species in family) bowfins; dogfishes;
mudfishes
ORDER Anguilliformes
Anguilliformes (all species in eels
order)
ORDER Atheriniformes
FAMILY Atherinidae
Atherinomorus stipes silversides, hardhead
FAMILY Belonidae
Belonidae (all species in needlefishes
family)
FAMILY Hemirhamphidae
Hemirhamphidae (all species in halfbeaks
family, except
Dermogenys pusillus and
Nomorhamphus celebensis)
FAMILY Poeciliidae
Belonesox belizanus top minnow, pike
ORDER Cypriniformes
FAMILY Characidae
Acestrorhynchus (all species cachorros
in genus)
Catoprion (all species in genus) piranha
Hydrolycus (all species in characins
genus)
Pygocentrus (all species in genus) piranha
Serrasalminae (all species piranha
in subfamily except the
species in the following
genera: Colossoma, pacu;
Metynnis, silver dollar;
Myleus, silver dollar;
Myloplus, myloplus;
and Mylossoma, pacu)
Serrasalmo (all species in genus) piranha
Serrasalmus (all species in piranha
genus)
FAMILY Gymnotidae
Electrophorus electricus eel, electric
ORDER Myctophiformes
FAMILY Synodontidae
Synodus (all species in genus) lizard fishes
ORDER Osteoglossiformes
FAMILY Osteoglossidae
Arapaima gigas pirarucu
ORDER Perciformes
FAMILY Channidae
Channidae; (Ophiocephaloidae) snake heads
(all species in family, except
Ophiocephalus striatus)
FAMILY Cichlidae
Batrachops (all species in genus) cichlid, pike
Crenicichla (all species in genus) cichlid, pike
FAMILY Eleotrididae
Dormitator maculatus sleeper, spotted
Eleotris (all species in genus) sleepers
Mogurnda mogurnda gudgeon, purple striped
FAMILY Sciaenidae
Pogonias cromis drum, black
Sciaenops ocellatus drum, red
FAMILY Sparidae
Pagrus major bream, red sea
ORDER Polypteriformes
FAMILY Polypteridae
Polypteridae (all species in fishes, bichir
family)
ORDER Scorpaeniformes
FAMILY Scorpaenidae
Amblyapistus taenianotus rouge fish
Dendrochirus zebra lion fish, zebra
Inimicus didactylum sea goblin, popeyed
Paracentropogon longispinis scorpion fish, wispy
Pterois (all species in genus) lion fishes
Scorpaena (all species in genus) scorpion fishes
Scorpaenodes (all species in scorpion fishes
genus)
Synanceia horrida stone fish
Synanceia verrucosa stone fish
Taenianotus triacanthus leaf fish, sailfin
ORDER Semionotiformes
FAMILY Lepisosteidae
Lepisosteidae (all species in garpikes
family)
ORDER Siluriformes
FAMILY Ariidae
Ariidae (all species in family) catfishes, ariid
FAMILY Bagridae
Bagrichthys hypselopterus catfish, black lancer
Clarotes (all species in genus) catfishes, clarotes
FAMILY Clariidae
Clariidae (all species in catfishes
family, except Clarias fuscus)
FAMILY Doradidae
Doradidae (all species in catfishes, doradid
family)
FAMILY Malapteruridae
Malapterurus electricus catfish, electric
FAMILY Pimelodidae
Phractocephalus hemiliopterus catfish, redtailed
Pseudopimelodus transmontanus catfish, Peruvian mottled
Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum catfish, tiger shovelnose
FAMILY Plotosidae
Plotosidae (all species in eels, catfish
family)
FAMILY Siluridae
Wallago attu catfish, helicopter
FAMILY Trichomycteridae
Vandellia cirrhosa candiru
ORDER Synbranchiformes
FAMILY Synbranchidae
Synbranchus afer moray, freshwater
Synbranchus marmoratus moray, freshwater
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can be imported with a permit from the Hawaii Dept. of Agriculture for 1) research and exhibition purposes.

PHYLUM Chordata
CLASS Chonodrichthyes
ORDER Carcharhiniformes
FAMILY Carcharhinidae
Carcharhinus amblyrhynchos shark, gray reef
Carcharhinus galapagensis shark, Galapagos
Carcharhinus longimanus shark, oceanic whitetip
Carcharhinus limbatus shark, blacktip
CLASS Osteichthyes
ORDER Acipenseriformes
FAMILY Acipenseridae
Acipenser baeri sturgeon, Siberian
Acipenser brevirostrum sturgeon, shortnose
Acipenser fulvescens sturgeon, lake
Acipenser guldenstadti sturgeon, Russian
Acipenser guldenstadti x Huso huso sturgeon, Oceber
Acipenser medirostris sturgeon, green
Acipenser oxyrhynchus sturgeon, Atlantic
Acipenser ruthenus sturgeon, Siberian;
sterlet
Acipenser ruthenus x Huso huso sturgeon, Bester
Acipenser stellatus sturgeon, Servuga (starry)
Huso huso sturgeon, Beluga
Scaphirhynchus albus sturgeon, pallid
Scaphirhynchus platorhynchus sturgeon, shovelnose
FAMILY Polyodontidae
Polyodon spathula paddlefish
ORDER Atheriniformes
FAMILY Atherinidae
Menidia beryllina silverside
ORDER Cypriniformes
FAMILY Cyprinidae
Notemigonus crysoleucas minnow, golden shiner
Pimephales promelas minnow, fathead
FAMILY Erythrinidae
Hoplias malabaricus tiger fish
ORDER Perciformes
FAMILY Mugilidae
Mugil cephalus mullet, striped
FAMILY Nototheniidae
Dissostichus mawsoni cod, Antarctic
Notothenia (all species in genus) cod, Antarctic
FAMILY Siganidae
Lo magnificus foxface, white
(rabbitfish)
Lo uspi foxface, bicolor
(rabbitfish)
Lo vulpinus lo, foxface (rabbitfish)
Siganus corallinus rabbitfish, spotted
Siganus lineatus goldenspot
Siganus puellus rabbitfish, blueline
Siganus vermiculatus rabbitfish, vermiculated
Siganus vermiculatus rabbitfish, spinefoot
Siganus virgatus rabbitfish, barhead
ORDER Siluriformes
FAMILY Clariidae
Clarias fuscus catfish, Chinese
ORDER Synbranchiformes
FAMILY Synbranchidae
Monopterus albe eel, rice paddy
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can be imported with a permit from the Hawaii Dept. of Agriculture for commercial or private purposes.

PHYLUM Chordata
CLASS Chondrichthyes
ORDER Carcharhiniformes
FAMILY Carcharhinidae
Carcharhinus melanopterus shark, black-tip reef
Cephaloscyllium ventriosum shark, swell
FAMILY Hemigaleidae
Triaenodon obesus shark, white-tip reef
FAMILY Triakidae
Rhinnotriakis henlei shark, smoothound
Triakis semifascitum shark, leopard
ORDER Heterodontiformes
FAMILY Heterodontidae
Heterodontus zebra shark, highfin
ORDER Orectolobiformes
FAMILY Brachaeluridae
Brachaelurus waddi shark, blind
FAMILY Ginglymostomatidae
Ginglymostoma cirratum shark, nurse
FAMILY Hemiscyllidae
Chiloscyllium colax shark, banded
Hemiscyllium ocellatum shark, epaulette
FAMILY Stegostomatidae
Stegostoma fasciatum shark, zebra
CLASS Osteichthyes
ORDER Acipenseriformes
FAMILY Acipenseridae
Acipenser transmontanus sturgeon, white
ORDER Atheriniformes
FAMILY Anablepidae
Anableps (all species in genus) four-eyes
Jenynsia (all species in genus) livebearer
FAMILY Goodeidae
Allodontichthys (all species darter goodeid
in genus)
Alloophorus (all species in genus) goodeid
Allotoca (all species in genus) goodeid
Ameca (all species in genus) goodeid
Ataeniobius (all species in genus) goodeid
Chapalichthys (all species goodeid
in genus)
Characodon (all species in genus) goodeid
Girardinichthys (all species goodeid
in genus)
Goodea (all species in genus) goodea
Hubbsina (all species in genus) goodeid
Ilyodon (all species in genus) goodeid
Neoophorus (all species in genus) goodeid
Skiffia (all species in genus) goodeid
Xenoophorus (all species goodeid
in genus)
Xenotaenia (all species in genus) goodeid
Xenotoca (all species in genus) goodeid
Zoogoneticus (all species in goodeid
genus)
FAMILY Poeciliidae
Alfaro (all species in genus) livebearer
Brachyrhaphis (all species in bishop
genus)
Carlhubbsia (all species in genus) widow
Cnesterodon (all species in genus) millionfish
Flexipenis (all species in genus) mosquitofish
Gambusia (all species in genus mosquitofish
except Gambusia amistadensis,
G. gaigei, G. georgei,
G. heterochir and G. nobilis)
Girardinus (all species in genus) girardinus
Heterandria (all species in genus) mosquitofish
Heterophallus (all species in strange-fin
genus)
Limia (all species in genus) molly
Neoheterandria (all species in killifish
genus)
Phallichthys (all species in widow
genus)
Phalloceros (all species in genus) livebearer
Phalloptychus (all species in livebearer
genus)
Phallotorynus (all species in livebearer
genus)
Poecilia (all species in genus) molly
Poeciliopsis (all species in livebearer
genus except Poeciliopsis
occidentalis)
Priapella (all species in genus) livebearer
Priapichthys (all species in diamond-scale
genus)
Pseudopoecilia (all species in diamond-scale
genus)
Quintana (all species in genus) livebearer
Scolichthys (all species in genus) mosquitofish
Tomeurus (all species in genus) prongfin
Xenodexia (all species in genus) livebearer
Xenophallus (all species in genus) mosquitofish
Xiphophorus (all species in genus) platy
ORDER Cypriniformes
FAMILY Cyprinidae
Aristichthys nobilis carp, bighead
Ctenopharyngodon idellus carp, grass (white amur)
Hypophthalmichthys molitrix carp, silver
Mylopharyngodon piceus carp, black
ORDER Gonorynchiformes
FAMILY Chanidae
Chanos chanos milkfish
ORDER Perciformes
FAMILY Centrarchidae
Micropterus salmoides bass, Florida largemouth
floridanus
FAMILY Centropomidae
Lates calcarifer bass, Asian sea
FAMILY Channidae
Ophiocephalus (Channa) striatus pongee (snakehead)
FAMILY Cichlidae
Oreochromis aureus tilapia, blue
Oreochromis mossambicus tilapia, Mozambique
Oreochromis spilurus tilapia
Paretroplus polyactis cichlid, Damba
Paretroplus sp. "lamena" cichlid, Damba
FAMILY Percichthyidae
Morone saxatalis x Morone chrysops bass, hybrid striped
FAMILY Potophaenidae
Coryphaena hippurus mahimahi
ORDER Pleuronectiformes
FAMILY Bothidae
Paralichthys olivaceus flounder, Japanese (hirame)
ORDER Salmoniformes
FAMILY Salmonidae
Oncorhynchus kisutch salmon, coho
Oncorhynchus mykiss trout, rainbow
Oncorhynchus tshawytscha salmon, Chinook
Salmo gairdnerii trout, rainbow
Salmo salar salmon, atlantic

Source: Hawaii Dept. of Agriculture's Administrative Rules.
http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/adminrules/AR-71P.pdf
http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/adminrules/AR-71RA.pdf
http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/adminrules/AR-71RB.pdf
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Sorry Alex but there are actually four lists, the fourth is the List of Conditionally Approved Animals (here's the link: http://hawaii.gov/hdoa/pi/pq/AR-71C.pdf) which has the following on it (which still needs a permit to import):
CONDITIONAL ANIMAL LIST §4-71-6.5
SCIENTIFIC NAME COMMON NAME
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Petrocephalus bane whale
Petrocephalus bovei whale, gray
Petrocephalus catostoma whale, African
Petrocephalus sauvagei whale
Petrocephalus simus whale, dorsal band
Pollimyrus angolensis whale, bottle-nose
Pollimyrus cattelnaui whale, baby; whale, silver
Pollimyrus nigripinis whale, dusky
Stomatochinus corneti mormyrid
ORDER Osteoglossiformes
FAMILY Notopteridae
Notopterus afer featherfin, African flag
Notopterus chitala featherback, clown
Notopterus notopterus featherback, Malayan
(Sumatra)
Papyrocranus afer featherfin, African flag
Xenomystus nigri featherback, African
FAMILY Osteoglossidae
Clupisudis niloticus heterotis
Osteoglossum bicirrhosum arowana
Osteoglossum ferreirai arowana, black
Scleropages jardini saratoga, gulf (northern)
Scleropages leichardti saratoga; baramundi,
spotted
FAMILY Pantodontidae
Pantodon buchholzi butterflyfish
ORDER Perciformes
FAMILY Acanthuridae
Acanthuridae (all species in surgeonfish
family)
FAMILY Anabantidae
Anabas testudineus perch, climbing
Ctenopoma acutirostre perch, spotted climbing
Ctenopoma ansorgei ctenopoma, ornate
Ctenopoma congicum ctenopoma, Congo
Ctenopoma fasciolatum ctenopoma, banded
Ctenopoma kingsleyi ctenopoma, Kingsley's
Ctenopoma nanum perch, dwarf climbing
Ctenopoma ocellatum bushfish, chocolate
Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus ctenopoma, mottled
 
By the way Alex I'm not trying to start a beef or anything, I just want fellow MFKers to have the correct info. This is why I posted the link above to the List of Conditionally Approved Animals. If you read the list that you posted carefully it says the following:
ORDER Osteoglossiformes
FAMILY Osteoglossidae
Arapaima gigas pirarucu
This is the ONLY Arowana that you can't bring in legally to Hawaii besides the Asian which no one can have legally in the US anyway.
So you can ship any of the other Aro's or any other fish that's on the List of Conditionally Approved Animals legally to Hawaii provided that the person ordering from you or any other vendor has the proper permit.
 
You not starting any beef, Information is key here.I did nt see that 4th list. So I will sell black Arowana and other fish to HI. I assume the buyer needs a permit?
 
Yes they do and they then need to fax you a copy for you to place on the outside of the box along. As long as the fish that you sell/ship to Hawaii are on the List of Conditionally Approved Animals there shouldn't be any problems. You just need to inform the buyer that they need to go down to Dept. of Agriculture to obtain an import permit.
 
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