Black Nasty
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N. Haitienis are beautiful fish that in my opinion do better in a solitary type set up unless you can end up with a compatible pair and that might be tough to do. I wouldn't go any less than a 75 gallon for an adult but if you're growing them out a smaller tank may work for awhile. They are prone to getting bloat and i hear alot of folks loosing there odo's this way. I would start the fish off with spirulina flakes and add other stuff gradually avoiding foods high in protein content in the beginning. As the fish matures you will probably be able to feed different kinds of food but i's be careful in the beginning. Also have great filtration in your tank and do water changes once a week. Good luck!
Here is my pair in the 135g tank.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42954
I also have a 4.5" male growout in my 180g.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42954
I also have a 4.5" male growout in my 180g.
rallysman;556236; said:
No problem, I will call the guy this weekend and see what he letting them go for. I'll let you know the damges after I talk to him.
vanilla__gorilla__;556696; said:yah if you have the cash get theme from jeff rapps you wont be sorry
I think you know Rally, but the ones I am trying to grab for you guys are from Rapps.
there is a lot of conflicting information and conflicting opinions on the cause of bloat in CA species that are particularly prone to it such as N. haitiensis, C. beani, and several Thorichthys species.
personally I truly believe it has nothing to do with their diet and more to do with water quality. N. haitiensis come from very fast flowing rivers (hence the reason you'll see on many websites that they frequently are found in brackish tributaries) which means they are used to incredibly clean water very high in oxygen. I bought 3 juvies from an lfs in Indy a while back and put them in 30 long to grow them out. I fed them everything under the sun in sort of an experiment to find out if diet had anything to do with their bloat. I was feeding them live blackworms, freeze dried and frozen bloodworms, krill, all types of pellets that were small enough for them, flakes etc. I also had an AC 300 filter on the tank as well as a very large powerhead and did plenty of water changes. I kept the temp at around 80F because they're used to slightly higher temps than many tropicals.
2 of them grew at an average rate but the 3rd grew about 3x the size of the others before he killed them both overnight. he did great and grew to around 4" in about 6 months or so which is pretty good because some people claim haits to grow slowly (probably due to the low protein diet most people feed them). he did die when I had to move him to another tank with similar sized tankmates which really ticked me off but I had to move him because I'd just bought another very expensive fish that had to have its own tank.
the hait did fine in the new tank for a couple of weeks swimming and feeding normally and actually ruling part of the tank. then one day...dead.
I'm definitely going to get more some day and try and grow up a breeding pair because they are beautiful fish. 
by the way, try calling the Uncle bill's on east washington street and the store on the west side on 38th street. they've both carried haits before and if they currently don't may be willing to order them for you.
personally I truly believe it has nothing to do with their diet and more to do with water quality. N. haitiensis come from very fast flowing rivers (hence the reason you'll see on many websites that they frequently are found in brackish tributaries) which means they are used to incredibly clean water very high in oxygen. I bought 3 juvies from an lfs in Indy a while back and put them in 30 long to grow them out. I fed them everything under the sun in sort of an experiment to find out if diet had anything to do with their bloat. I was feeding them live blackworms, freeze dried and frozen bloodworms, krill, all types of pellets that were small enough for them, flakes etc. I also had an AC 300 filter on the tank as well as a very large powerhead and did plenty of water changes. I kept the temp at around 80F because they're used to slightly higher temps than many tropicals.
2 of them grew at an average rate but the 3rd grew about 3x the size of the others before he killed them both overnight. he did great and grew to around 4" in about 6 months or so which is pretty good because some people claim haits to grow slowly (probably due to the low protein diet most people feed them). he did die when I had to move him to another tank with similar sized tankmates which really ticked me off but I had to move him because I'd just bought another very expensive fish that had to have its own tank.
the hait did fine in the new tank for a couple of weeks swimming and feeding normally and actually ruling part of the tank. then one day...dead.
I'm definitely going to get more some day and try and grow up a breeding pair because they are beautiful fish. by the way, try calling the Uncle bill's on east washington street and the store on the west side on 38th street. they've both carried haits before and if they currently don't may be willing to order them for you.
