please post a pic of you holding it if you got one.I want one real bad but dont hav the room just yet,what do they usually run?KNMG;3398807; said:I have a Black pine. He is a cool snake. The only colubrid I have. I might try to get him a girl this year since he is only a year old. The other type that was left out are Black milks. Very cool snakes that will turn black as adults. Nothing beats a 5.5-6 foot jet black pine though. Adults are just awesome! My 2 cents.