Black tip tank?

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They NEED bigger space. There are LOADS of them being kept in big enough tanks. At the aquarium in MN we had the option of the 85,000 gallon tank and didn't put them in there, but opted for the 500,000. The 85,000 didn't have enough foot print for them to swim as they need to. Shipping is one thing, but living is totally different as to the impact it has on the shark. We ship fish in bags, it doesn't mean you can keep fish in bags their whole life. Sharks are the same way. I've moved sharks all over the world, and wouldn't dream of keepig them in the same size as a shipping box.

It's not about dividing up the space among the sharks. There is more to shark keeping than space. Water volume is offsetting waste production. Sharks are one of the highest ammonia/waster producting fish you can have - and part of the volume is to keep water chemistry stable.

Those black tip reefs in the 5000 I have will be moved out soon as they are out growing it. The 12 foot diameter is too small even now. That one is out of my hands for now. They also have FAR MORE swimming space due to it being round than a tank like you described. A narrow tank is a pain for sharks like these to turn around in. The 90 degree corners are not usable space. To see the usable space, draw an oval inside the tank using a line they can swim without having to go 'nose up' in the water. You'll see how much of a square/rectange tank isn't usable. A three foot shark will need 5 or 6 feet as the shortest side, and a much longer 'glide length' for the longer sides. Also remember to account for growth. My two 2 year old BTRs are over 4 feet at this point and still growing fast.

Small tanks for free swimming sharks leads to two major issues.

Spinal development: The back grows wrong and tends to curve. You'll cut the life span in half and if you don't put them down, you'll end up watching a shark that will die as it eventually sinks to the bottom because it can no longer move itself throught the water.
Liver/Renal failure: Liver and kindey function is critical to sharks. It's why they don't take well to most meds that directly impact those two systems. When you stress the body, those two systems tend to fail first and will lead to death if not corrected.
 
Just to throw out another bit of info. If you want to get the same usable floor space / area for a shark to swim out of a square tank as the 12 ft round gives, you'd have to have a square big enough to house that same size circle (12 ft by 12 ft).

And more clarification about dividing up space. Having multiple sharks in a given space doesn't mean they are restricted to only a percent divided between the number in the group. All sharks have access to all swimming areas. As an example, there are currently 8 sharks in the 5000. It doesn't mean they are all limited to 1/8th of the tank. They all go everywhere.

Another thing to factor in is the life support/filtration system and making sure it's enough to support the load of the number of sharks/fish in the tank.
 
Thanks for summing that up zoo diver. Guess a little one wont last 2 years in my "small tank" :(

I guess ideally from what your saying even my planned tank will not be suitable for a black tip. I guess I should aim for a 12x12 or maybe a bit bigger as it will be cubed. we dont build tanks out of acrylic here so getting curved/round tanks is very costly.

I wish there was another shark that was like a black tip but did not grow so big, We get port jacksons and carpet sharks in also but none have the actual shark look - swim style.
 
Fiberglass is the best thing to use for cost and still getting a solid tank when wanting something round. They're fairly cheap compared to other materials used. Red-E-Wald make panals you bolt together in place. They ship stacked flat if you want to have something shipped in from out of country. I'm sure there must be something similar down there.

12' round is good for about two years with a black tip reef. Smooth hounds and white tip reefs are your best bet for smaller sharks that aren't true carpet sharks and can be kept in 'smaller' size pools. My white tip reefs are up and swimming about 90% of the time.
 
Thanks again zoo. So I have spent the past 3 hours looking all over the web and found some nice aquaculture suppliers! none seem to have the option to install a window on the front so I am hoping to go down to the aquarium from memory they did have a very large tub with baby sharks in it I could get a ruff idea how they look. Not a big fan of viewing stuff top on else its a ray but seeing as the tank will be big when the fish/shark is on one side I should be able to see him long as the water is kept clean!

I also found a 12ft pool for 200$ O_O! but I dont think its suitable looks like it will break if anything sharp touches it and the supports will need to be coated to be sw safe.

We used to keep white tips at work we had 3 in a 20x5 with other fish etc. It was quite nice my friend used to get in there pretty much naked to clean it lol. I just love that strong black on the btrs.

We also have a wobbegong shark in the shop at the moment, he is quite cool. I was thinking of taking him but his too aggressive dont think I could put anything with him sadly.
 
Adding a window after the fact isn't that bad. I've cut fiberglass and sealed in curved acrylic windows in an afternoon with the help of a friend to hold it in place. If you want I can explain how. I'd bet you can find an acrylic place that would have the correct curve to put it into almost any size pool you wanted.
 
Don't do it. One of my lfs has a black tip in a 4000gal tank and its no where near enough room. Id say min 10000gal tank.

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GET A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHARK:)
I WOULD LOOK INTO MAYBE A BAMBOO SHARK!
OR, MAYBE A PORT JACKSON
Keep an open mind...:)
 
Yes I am aware the tank is too small :) thank you. Going off the prices of these tubs I will just be using one of them. its almost and 8th of what I will pay for the tank :O! they even come predrilled for a sump quite nice.

I take it for the window Matt I just cut the area open, order the acrylic a bit larger then then the window silicone the excess and silicone the front edges? or would it require a frame to be built around the sheet like fiberglass tanks?

I think viewing from on top may be fine, I went the aquarium to look yesterday and the only time you cant see the sharks full body is when they are in front of you.

Now I face one more issue doh! I want to make the 8x4x3 salt water. I kind of had/have enough freshwater tanks so the only idea I really had to put in there would be my RTC. Thinking of trying a mixed reef maybe with a smaller carpet shark (the wobbegong shark would be sweet but I think he will eat everything!!) then some larger tangs / angels and MAYBE try putting my clown and fuscus trigger together in there. anyways off topic sorry lol.
 
I take it for the window Matt I just cut the area open, order the acrylic a bit larger then then the window silicone the excess and silicone the front edges? or would it require a frame to be built around the sheet like fiberglass tanks?

Depending on the material the tank is made from, yes. I use DOW 795. It's a heavy duty black silicone that works great. I usually drill the four corners and get it secured (without silicone), then drill several holes along the length of the sides. Once you have it all drilled, run a heavy bead of silicone and smash it in place. Have a buddy hold it up while you secure the bolts. One little trick I've learned over the years is to tape off the edges so after you get it set, peal it off and you'll get nice clean edges instead of sloppy silicone all over.
 
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