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I found a great difference between who tries to put fish in a tank to resemble their natural biotope and waiting their behaviour, and people who put "monster fish" cuz only are beautiful,hungry,powerful and terrific.

not only here,but in many forums I see people who put in a tank (big as u want) frontosa,festae,GT,JD,mbuna and other only because are huge tanks.
this is really wrong and it springs from not mature fishkeepers.

I have found great differences between many "european users" and many "american users".
we lack of great tanks (not cuz there r no tanks but we lack space) so in Europe the great SA&CA cichlids are extremely rare (except I think for Germany ), but I think in europe there is a more responsable keeping of the tanks e.g. : frontosa only with frontosa, never mixed with malwi or other..... or angry SA cichlid by their own..only a couple and never a single specimen as a ornament.

I hope this could be read as a constructive critcism.

P.S.
sorry for my bad english
 
hypselecara;1638105; said:
I found a great difference between who tries to put fish in a tank to resemble their natural biotope and waiting their behaviour, and people who put "monster fish" cuz only are beautiful,hungry,powerful and terrific.

not only here,but in many forums I see people who put in a tank (big as u want) frontosa,festae,GT,JD,mbuna and other only because are huge tanks.
this is really wrong and it springs from not mature fishkeepers.

I have found great differences between many "european users" and many "american users".
we lack of great tanks (not cuz there r no tanks but we lack space) so in Europe the great SA&CA cichlids are extremely rare (except I think for Germany ), but I think in europe there is a more responsable keeping of the tanks e.g. : frontosa only with frontosa, never mixed with malwi or other..... or angry SA cichlid by their own..only a couple and never a single specimen as a ornament.

I hope this could be read as a constructive critcism.

P.S.
sorry for my bad english

haveing mixed, african and Sa/Ca cichlid tanks, does not make you an irresponsible fish keeper. many keepers prefer to keep them seperate, but being that many of malawi and SA/Ca cichlids have simalar requirermnets in water quality it does not matter.
 
I think it's a irresponsable running of a tank putting them all together.
there is not only water quality but feeding also for example...
mbunas are pricky eaters..they support only a vegetarian diet (otherwise Bloat is always under the corner)..how is it possible to mix them with SA/CA?

there is also a caratterial incompatibility...the CA/SA in nature live in shrink areas..but mbunas/haps not.
 
hypselecara;1638136; said:
I think it's a irresponsable running of a tank putting them all together.
there is not only water quality but feeding also for example...
mbunas are pricky eaters..they support only a vegetarian diet (otherwise Bloat is always under the corner)..how is it possible to mix them with SA/CA?

there is also a caratterial incompatibility...the CA/SA in nature live in shrink areas..but mbunas/haps not.

good point, but mixing and varying the diet for the tanks is always a must, so if you mix the diet for the Sa/CA's with a more vegitarian diet for mbuna's it would work. also FYI- i don't support the idea of mixing african's with Ca/Sa's. i'm just playing devils addvocate and supporting other members in stating that it can be done.
 
I appreciate your role of devil's lawyer :D but I'm on my heels...I think varying a CA/SA cichlid diet is a must, but they can eat either meat as vegatbles, the mbuna's cannot.

I'm sure there r many keepers who runs better then anyone their tanks but unfortunately I think this is not the right way...as well as we'll never appreciate a natural behaviour of a e.g. Metriaclima Estherae put single ina tank with Heros Severum and Red Devils.
they remain such as ornament spreading like no one natural behaviour.
 
fark, godda say taht BB's got balls!! surely the dovii woulda won the dominance!! hypselecara it's a lil bit of lip lockin...even my lil juvie fish do it...tis all apart of growing up!! hehe
 
Frontosa's are one fish that I have kept happily and successfully with my SA/CA cichlids. Both do very well on Hikari bio-gold.
 
keeping fish in glass tanks is artificial in itself. i don't think there are many people on this forum who condone cichlids or other fish killing one another. i do think people need to provide the right type of space and environment to the best of their abilities.
fish fighting one another is going to happen in the wild too. it just happens that in the confines of an aquarium we should be careful that nothing serious happens.
it's always interesting to see how a tussle will work out, and i trust that no blood bath is going to happen here with casualities.

and on a lighter note - nice fish :)
 
hypselecara;1638105; said:
I found a great difference between who tries to put fish in a tank to resemble their natural biotope and waiting their behaviour, and people who put "monster fish" cuz only are beautiful,hungry,powerful and terrific.

not only here,but in many forums I see people who put in a tank (big as u want) frontosa,festae,GT,JD,mbuna and other only because are huge tanks.
this is really wrong and it springs from not mature fishkeepers.

I have found great differences between many "european users" and many "american users".
we lack of great tanks (not cuz there r no tanks but we lack space) so in Europe the great SA&CA cichlids are extremely rare (except I think for Germany ), but I think in europe there is a more responsable keeping of the tanks e.g. : frontosa only with frontosa, never mixed with malwi or other..... or angry SA cichlid by their own..only a couple and never a single specimen as a ornament.

I hope this could be read as a constructive critcism.

P.S.
sorry for my bad english

Oh, master European, could you please teach us Americans how to be responsible fish keepers?
 
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