Very similaar to what China is doing in many parts of Africa....right now.This is not just a problem caused by the west.
Bolsonaro, Brazil, The Amazon and Fishkeepers
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There will be no wild animals or anything else left in Africa by the time they are done sucking all of the fish from the coastal waters and raping the land.
Don't worry, in the end they'll eat each other, their leaders have made it clear: as long as the money's flowing their way then the don't care about trivial things like human rights, the planet we live on, endangered species or suffering
Rest easy everyone, Bolsonaro has appointed a complete wackadoo...
"Brazil’s president-elect Jair Bolsonaro has chosen a new foreign minister who believes climate change is part of a plot by “cultural Marxists” to stifle western economies and promote the growth of China. Ernesto Araújo – until recently a mid-ranking official who blogs about the “criminalisation” of red meat, oil and heterosexual sex – will become the top diplomat of South America’s biggest nation, representing 200 million people and the greatest and most biodiverse forest on Earth, the Amazon."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...er-ernesto-araujo-climate-change-marxist-plot
"Brazil’s president-elect Jair Bolsonaro has chosen a new foreign minister who believes climate change is part of a plot by “cultural Marxists” to stifle western economies and promote the growth of China. Ernesto Araújo – until recently a mid-ranking official who blogs about the “criminalisation” of red meat, oil and heterosexual sex – will become the top diplomat of South America’s biggest nation, representing 200 million people and the greatest and most biodiverse forest on Earth, the Amazon."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...er-ernesto-araujo-climate-change-marxist-plot
The downside to global warming is that no one seems to care about conservation anymore. Instead of limiting consumption the solution to the planets problems is for you to buy even more ****! Isnt that convienient?
This is what happens when emotions rule over common sense.
A- it's their legally elected officials doing stuff in their own country
B- It's easy to get all high and mighty from your fancy computer/phone and tell the peasant classes to eat cake, but they don't have to listen to you
C- most enviornmental freakouts, while well intentioned don't seem to notice the extreme arrogance of their position. It's always "oh we are so bad, boo hoo humans bad" but is chased with a "I want to see Bison and tigers ...etc" so which is it, are humans bad for developing the land, albeit crudely, and increasing their wealth and quality of life at the expense of some species? Or is it ok that we live in hovels so you can get to see tiger? (trust me, the people who see tigers all the time, don't want to see them as they tend to not see them for long except from the inside)
D- our lifespan covers such a small amount of geologic time that our impact is really miniscule, if the entirety of civilization was in a book about the History of the Planet, that was the size of the bible, we'd be the last sentence of the last page. No matter if we launched every nuke tomorrow and burned every forest and boiled the oceans, in a few million years life would be doing it's thing ,completely unconcerned about what came before it. Do you lament the loss of the dinosaurs? They got hit by a large space object moving at high speed that did more damage than we could do in a billion years, and yet here we are!
E- life goes on, and maybe yeah, it sucks that some fish we like will be extinct in nature, but to say that "welp, sorry Brazil, you gotta keep living in huts so I can have cheap fish" is about as arrogant and elitist as it gets.
Yes, I understand that this practical view of things might not be popular around here, but it's how I see things. People tend to get too emotionally wound up about stuff and put rational thinking and context aside because of how they feel and what they want. I don't find this wise.
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Literally the opposite of rational thinking is conspiracy mongering and denial of science. It seems that the newly elected President of Brazil and the people who he is appointing to important positions are wackadoos who don't believe in science.
The new president of Brazil has publicly stated that he plans to open vast areas of Brazil to development. Scientists and experts have forecast the negative implications of this.
Why should anyone care? Brazil contains the greatest and most biodiverse forest on Earth. Without the Amazon, global warming will accelerate at the detriment of the whole planet. Here's an economic analysis of the cost of global warming led by Former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Hank Paulson: https://riskybusiness.org/
Species of animals and plants could be wiped out before even being discovered by science. Could one be the cure for cancer? Who knows. It's now cattle grazing land. Man has wiped out 60% of animal species since 1970 on its own. (https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ped-out-animals-since-1970-major-report-finds).
Civilizations of indigenous people will be exterminated or at least no longer isolated. Who cares about genocide? Cheap aquarium fish should be the last of our worries.
Common sense and rationality says, "What can we - individually and collectively - do to convince Brazil's leadership to not destroy the Amazon?"
The new president of Brazil has publicly stated that he plans to open vast areas of Brazil to development. Scientists and experts have forecast the negative implications of this.
Why should anyone care? Brazil contains the greatest and most biodiverse forest on Earth. Without the Amazon, global warming will accelerate at the detriment of the whole planet. Here's an economic analysis of the cost of global warming led by Former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Hank Paulson: https://riskybusiness.org/
Species of animals and plants could be wiped out before even being discovered by science. Could one be the cure for cancer? Who knows. It's now cattle grazing land. Man has wiped out 60% of animal species since 1970 on its own. (https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ped-out-animals-since-1970-major-report-finds).
Civilizations of indigenous people will be exterminated or at least no longer isolated. Who cares about genocide? Cheap aquarium fish should be the last of our worries.
Common sense and rationality says, "What can we - individually and collectively - do to convince Brazil's leadership to not destroy the Amazon?"
