Bottom dwellers?

[Madou]

Odoes have not eaten yet, they are nowhere as skittish as I expected them to be, which is good, but they don't even look at food, be it frozen red worms, frozen artemias, crushed sinking pellets, floating cichlid pellets... I'm about to give in to buying small live fishes as they become quite skinny.

Also, there's this that popped up on my wholsaler list, I was wondering if he was considered a wolf, and if so, if it works in a comm with odoes and cichlas?

Hoplerythrinus Unitaeniatus for 15€, I don't think that'd be a ripoff, though it doesn't quite look like curu or mala.

 

[kno4te]

Gold wolf is an option as it can reach 16 inches in home aquariums.

They can be kept solo but better in groups. If kept solo it will try to dominate the tank and other fish if not bigger than it. Groups of gold wolves will help to spread out the aggression.

QuDodger has a pack of golds and can share his experience.

It's very very active and can harass ur odoes because it will try to swim in the same zone. It's worth a try but I would suggest some dithers in there to act as a target.

Beef up those Odoes!

Would wait till ur odoes put on some size as golds will be very thick. That kind of size difference will also encourage the gold wolf to try and bully any fish. It's not just the length of the fish for golds.

If your gonna jump on it then separate them with a divider and make sure the size isn't an issue and give it a try.

 

[moe214]

I agree with kno4te for the most part. But people have had bad luck trying to get an established pack of golds in aquaria for some reason we do not yet know, maybe people aren't buying enough, but people say they buy 5-6 and end up with 1 in the end. If you watch videos of them in the wild, their packs are definitely filled with more than 5 or 6.
They are fairly territorial and definitely active being mostly an open water swimmer, so they may express their aggression more so than other wolves because of this. Nonetheless people have kept them in comm with other fish of all shapes and sizes. I agree dithers will help, try bala Sharks, tinfoil barbs, or SD, something cheap so it doesn't bother you to much if you lose one. Odoes can also be fairly aggressive ime with the one I have, she holds her own with my curu. However yours are more fragile at the smaller size, once she got to about 8" was when she got an attitude, and she got to around 10" and passed the wolf in length and then decided to try the wolf out. The gold has a slower growth rate when compared to an odoe AFAIK so, I say get it now wait for the odoes to be of equal size or slightly bigger, get dithers as well, and then add the wolf with everyone else. Odoes.can fit a large fish in their mouth, so don't make the size difference to big.
Probably wanna keep some dithers with the gold and the odoes so no one gets the idea of needing a whole tank to their self while separated and carry it over when being introduced to one another.

 

[Red Aimara]

Would be great to have a mix of Odoes and gold wolves here!

As for your juveniles, I agreed it's best to get them fattened up and stabilized first before attempting to switch diet - perhaps I am of weaker heart, couldn't bear to see my fishes getting thin. LOL!

 

[Madou]

Alright, all things considered, I am not too keen on trying golds.

While the price is alright, I have yet to have my odoes eat, and I don't know the exact size of the golds (they say "S" for small, which could be pretty much everything, for instance, an XL spotted gar was about 25 cm while a small fish of another type could be much more than half the adult size xD).

I think I'll wait on my Orinos while trying to feed my odoes, and once everyone eats and fattens up, I'll add wolves, but definitely not golds, needing a pack might make the tank way to crowded.

Thanks for the infos guys!

 

[QuDodger]

In my experience golden wolves are push overs to other aggressive species when kept in a group. They only take out their aggression on each other. I started with a group of 4 and now have 5 and they are doing very well still. I plan to add more in the future and have successfully kept them with cichla, crenicichla, silver dollars, hoplias species, Oscar, ngt and other datnoids, bristlenose plecos, and a Florida softshell turtle. I do however have to have a decent amount of vegetation in the tank and clear territories or the males tend to square off. Females on the other hand get along with everyone. Golds are by far one of my favorite fish and have a very active and quirky personality.

 

[kno4te]

Thanks QuDodger. Awesome golds and intermedius!

 

[Madou]

Wellllll, as it appears, floating the bag of Orinos made my odoes hungry, I have 5 now, and they're all full belly (Obviously, I relocated the orinos, I am not risking those beauties )

So... growout thread as soon as I get my white led ramp fixed, so I can actually take decent pictures!