Bottom-feeder for Breeding Convicts

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Could do mts. ( Malaysian trumpet snails).
 
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Ok, well I've had the pair for about 3 weeks and I just realized the female has been hiding in her caves which are hidden behind the plants for several days and hasn't come out. Think she's sitting on a clutch or wigglers at this point?

The cave entrance is hidden entirely by dozens of fake plants bunched together to create a "privacy fence" to some caves and the only reason I know she's even in there is because there's a small hole between the plants that I can just barely see her in a cave. She's definitely in there, but I can't see any little tiny things swimming near her yet.

If anyone has ideas, fork 'em on out.....my guess is she won't come out because she's on guard duty and the only reason I been seeing the male all the time is cu he's on patrol duty, and he makes sure she never has to leave the nest by bringing her food daily.

Is that about how I remember it working? Also noticed the male's forehead wasn't as steep as it was 3 weeks ago. Could that have been triggered by hormonal release during a spawn? Spawning makes your kok smaller?
 
Finally found babies this morning, about 40-50 it seems......easily 2 weeks old, and "swimming" at this point. Didn't notice any Pink babies.....what a waste of time. Figures another Pet Store lied to me. Beutifully red and blue colored parents, but now I'm sitting on a bunch of "normals"

Yay, so exciting, I bred Convicts......................again.
 
Finally found babies this morning, about 40-50 it seems......easily 2 weeks old, and "swimming" at this point. Didn't notice any Pink babies.....what a waste of time. Figures another Pet Store lied to me. Beutifully red and blue colored parents, but now I'm sitting on a bunch of "normals"

Yay, so exciting, I bred Convicts......................again.
Well well well......as I was peering into my Convict nursery the past few days I started noticing half of the little guys were getting black banding on their bodies.......



however at the same time I noticed the other half of them were NOT.......


.....and were retaining full whitish, pale coloration all the way down the body, regardless of size. There are both smallerish fry and largerish fry with banding and with pale white.


I guess the girl at the LFS was actually telling the truth about the father being a Pink. Het. for Pink + Het. for Pink = HALF Pink, HALF visually Normal but they are 66% Het. for Pink.

Yea, Hets. are a pain in the neck. Visuals are so much easier to know what the offspring will be lol
 
this a contradiction i see often. you want to add clean up fish to your tank but you still have to feed them. and because you still have to feed your clean up crew, your clean up just contributes to the bioload.
if you want bottom feeders then add bottom feeders. don't expect them to help keep the tank "clean."
you can put an fx5 on a ten gallon, there will still be excess nitrogen in the tank.
if you wait to remove the parent, you can add whatever you want. but adding anything into a 20 gallon with a pair of convicts is cruel. the convicts are just going to relentlessly kick the hell out of them.

Lol you sound like me.

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Just feed less IMO for better quality. You still have to feed plecos. Many starve in aquariums because people think think they just eat algae off the glass. I give my clown pleco algae wafers and she has drift wood. Some plecos eat drift wood too.
 
Lol you sound like me.

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Just feed less IMO for better quality. You still have to feed plecos. Many starve in aquariums because people think think they just eat algae off the glass. I give my clown pleco algae wafers and she has drift wood. Some plecos eat drift wood too.
yea, I have always done driftwood, but I opted to go with NO bottomfeeders since that was the biggest recommendation. This thread is older-ish, I was just updating on the babies. thanx for responding...I will probably add a Clown or Corys or something in a few weeks when I remove the parents.
 
Asian bumble bee cats are highly nocturnal give it a decent hide and your cons will never see it.

Grats kn the fry gramps

Also not entirely true about having to feed the clean up crew. I cant remember intentionally feeding any of the raph cats ive had unless they were small. Have one in a bichir grow out tank and it does the clean up job very well.... always fat and chubby
 
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Asian bumble bee cats are highly nocturnal give it a decent hide and your cons will never see it.

Grats kn the fry gramps

Also not entirely true about having to feed the clean up crew. I cant remember intentionally feeding any of the raph cats ive had unless they were small. Have one in a bichir grow out tank and it does the clean up job very well.... always fat and chubby
yea, all my bottomfeeders eventually learn to take pellets and floating foods or just settle for scraps that fall down to them. I'm still working on these guys in my other tanks, but I had every catfish and pleco turn into surface feeders in my lifetime. I got some new stuff though now so it might be different. The Corys and Pims don't seem to get it yet and the Clown and Rubberlip plecos are just starting to become active a bit after a month finally....and the ARSs haven't caught on yet either.

Asian Bumblebees are the little ones that only grow 3"?
 
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