Brazil Ban ~ A good thing?

[rudy]

Prior to the ban I did not like black rays. I was a big fan of Castexi and would probably have paid more for a nice one than a black ray.
After the ban I don't even remember what a Castexi looks like and could care less, nor would I pay to get one. I would however spend big money to buy a hystrix, and even more to buy a black ray.

I bet you any money if they banned rays coming from Peru the black ray hype would not be nearly what it is right now.

All rays are cool, but people want what they can't get. Imagine if Tigers and Flowers or something else that did not breed readily in captivity were banned. The world would go crazy trying to get them.

 

[Miles]

This is NOT so true. Destroying habitat = destroying wild population. Ban = keeping them in a pot and cooking them all at the same time Unless Brazil plan to educate the people on how to save the wildlife, ban on exporting won't help.

How many black rays were exported per year, legally and illegally?

I agree that destruction of habitat is reducing wild numbers, but some reports say that certain areas and tributaries are higher in populations because of dams, etc..

 

[JD7.62]

How many black rays were exported per year, legally and illegally?

I agree that destruction of habitat is reducing wild numbers, but some reports say that certain areas and tributaries are higher in populations because of dams, etc..[/QUOTE]

I have read this too and makes since as most rays prefer relativly sluggish water so a big lake were a river use to be would be best I would think!

Rudy, while you do have a point that people want what they cant have, but I think if black rays were as common as brown rays are now and brown rays were banned I think most people would still prefer a black ray. At least I would! I cant imagine how much a flower or tiger would go for if they were ever banned cause they are more then black rays by a good bit before the ban!

 

[csx4236]

Ban = Good thing and yes with a stingray breeding business I want the ban but you also have to think of how many rays were imported over the years and how many are still alive? From what I can see very few are alive, I would bet that 90% or more of rays imported before the ban are now dead. Those numbers are much different with the increase of price came more owners more dedicated and willing to spend the proper money to feed and house these rays and much less die off.

 

[Brent]

Ban = Good thing and yes with a stingray breeding business I want the ban but you also have to think of how many rays were imported over the years and how many are still alive? From what I can see very few are alive, I would bet that 90% or more of rays imported before the ban are now dead. Those numbers are much different with the increase of price came more owners more dedicated and willing to spend the proper money to feed and house these rays and much less die off.

 

[rudy]

Ban = Good thing and yes with a stingray breeding business I want the ban but you also have to think of how many rays were imported over the years and how many are still alive? From what I can see very few are alive, I would bet that 90% or more of rays imported before the ban are now dead. Those numbers are much different with the increase of price came more owners more dedicated and willing to spend the proper money to feed and house these rays and much less die off.

The ban was a good thing for you for a lot of reasons Mike.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

 

[azin]

The ban was a good thing for you for a lot of reasons Mike.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

 

[csx4236]

The ban was a good thing for you for a lot of reasons Mike.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

I wish you could see the smile on my face Tim, I still cant believe I went ahead with this sometimes but everyday I thank god I did.

 

[Nic]

I'm torn I see positive and negative in the ban.... but I think there prices are a lil rediculous....

 

[spotfin]

I am curious what effect the harvest of rays from Brazil for the aquarium trade had on the wild population? As compared to rays harvested for other reasons (food, etc.). I don't think anyone really has a handle on the wild population. Changes caused by dams, loss of habitat, and pollution all have drastic effects.

Not to compare apples and oranges, but my understanding of the marine ornamental trade is that inmost cases harvesting for the aquarium trade has very little impact on the wild population.