Breeding and how hard is it?

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Oh i know.

I understand that it takes that long for them to mature as they get so big and have to do alot of growing before breeding.

It's just 4 yrs difference is alot to me, that's all.

But then again what a difference in size too, between the lower and the upper jaws.

i think you misunderstood my previous post ornates are upper jaw species too