Breeding Sevrum and Red devil?

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ofish14;2604903; said:
Post a pic of a "regular parrot'' i have 4 "blood parrots" and about a year or so ago i bought a black and greenish parrot at petsmart and now it looks exactly like my bloods



i think the "black and greenish parrot" was a dyed blood parrot.
 
its just like all the regular parrots at petsmart. now it looks like my blood parrots.
 
If you got a green one it was dyed and once the dye fades out they can get red back. When BPs came out in the late 80's early 90's they were said to be Severum / Red Devil. Try and find out. Unless someone has a picture of parents with fry it is all speculation.
 
No one has ever been able to duplicate blood parrots, also no proof has ever been made that they have severum in them, that was just an old myth because of their round body shape.
 
It's not as easy as you guys think. As written by another guy about this discussion, "The blood parrot is a cross breed between a Vieja synspilum and an Amphilophus citrinellus. your probably wondering how this cross makes something so mutated, thing is, it doesnt, this cross itself does not make a mutation, if you just go ahead and cross 2 normal Midas and synspilum, the fry will be Rose Queen, not Blood Parrot. In order to get the blood parrot, the synspilum must have a special defect gene which causes the "short body effect", this gene is caused by generations of inbreeding the synspilum, but this cannot be the dominant gene, it has to be the recessive gene in order to work properly, so therefore you must take the synspilum with the gene (short body) and cross it with a normal synspilum in order to get this short bodied gene to be the recessive gene, then you breed this "special gene" synspilum with a midas to get blood parrots, not such a simple concept when broken down to how long this would take, as i have no idea how many generations it takes to develop the defect gene, and Viejas/Paratheraps sexually mature late to, so it would take forever."
 
not sure of the exact gene but i have a feeling a blood parrot is a heavily line bred/inbred red devil that is short bodied
 
Nathan43;2610796; said:
It's not as easy as you guys think. As written by another guy about this discussion, "The blood parrot is a cross breed between a Vieja synspilum and an Amphilophus citrinellus. your probably wondering how this cross makes something so mutated, thing is, it doesnt, this cross itself does not make a mutation, if you just go ahead and cross 2 normal Midas and synspilum, the fry will be Rose Queen, not Blood Parrot. In order to get the blood parrot, the synspilum must have a special defect gene which causes the "short body effect", this gene is caused by generations of inbreeding the synspilum, but this cannot be the dominant gene, it has to be the recessive gene in order to work properly, so therefore you must take the synspilum with the gene (short body) and cross it with a normal synspilum in order to get this short bodied gene to be the recessive gene, then you breed this "special gene" synspilum with a midas to get blood parrots, not such a simple concept when broken down to how long this would take, as i have no idea how many generations it takes to develop the defect gene, and Viejas/Paratheraps sexually mature late to, so it would take forever."

I've been trying to find that article to back up my claims for a while. Do you have a link to it? I also have found this on the Happy Breed Blog. As you can see, they breed high quality parrots (Mammon and Ingot). They've also included pictures of what appear to be the parents. Looks like Synspilum x Midas, as has been stated numerous times.
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speculation has been made on the sev X rd making the parrots. however based on past threads on here we clearly know this not to be true anymore. the cross is Synspilum X red devil. also not all will produce parrots. a certain gene has to be present within the syn for this to happen correctly.
 
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