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I dont think their email works cause I tried it. So if you can call them instead, and don't forget to ask if they open on the weekends. I dont' know what you're going to say. You can ask if they're open to public or if they give a tour of their facility.
 
It's a business and I'm Caucasian, they'll let me in.
 
classic-chassis;3873253; said:
LOL famous! I've sent them mail to check it's ok to go.
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Nice one mate, it's good that your checking this out further, regardless wether it's for yourself or other members. most if not all members will be eager to hear of your feedback.

Re, "no pics no proof".... Well that's just the way I am. In my line of work, I question eveything and tend not to beleive everything I hear.
Equally, there's no dissing those who beleive in captive breeding.

Anyway, end of the day , I do hope this turns out to be thread of the year. Hope the visit reveals all.
 
classic-chassis;3873322; said:
It's a business and I'm Caucasian, they'll let me in.
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That's funny! but i think you're right. They'll probably think you have money. (this is key) Then they'll probably think you know squat about their fish. So it won't hurt to show you. Then again, be careful. they may trick ya into robbing ya. Lol. Jk. I don't know.
 
I have just been to the Faculty of Fisheries at Kasersat University. I told them i was a freelace writer and wanted to do an article on the plight of the ST. They were very helpful and obviously the main line of questioning was about the ST.
The last place it was found in the wild (semi) was at a fresh water lake called Bungporapetch in Nakronsawan provice. That is a lake used by the DOF for conservation. There are no more 100% wild STs in the lake. In the wild it is 100% extinct.
The DOF sponsor a Lab at the lake and there is a breeding program, however it is experimental and for STs It has met with limited success. The staff in the office phoned the facility to find out the information. Members of the public are not permitted to view unless given a permit from the Director of the DOF first.
You will not be seeing STs on the market any time soon, if ever.


The staff and I also spoke briefly about ITs and the numbers available in BKK. They told me even though the fish look the same they are not the same. They told me impossible to import for sale and that they are captive bred in farms. The same with NTTs. By “the staff” I mean people who are qualified aqua-biologists of one form or another.

I am still going to phone and visit the farm on the website link, and will try my hardest to find an IT farm if that farm does not have them.
I do actually know someone who could help me get a permit to visit the facility in Nakornsawan, but that’s asking big favors and at this point I’m not prepared to do that just to prove something I know is a fact to people I don’t know.
However, if there are IT and NTT farms and I see them (with pictures for you guys) I may well go and visit because I feel there is a very interesting magazine article in there, especially if ITs are farmed here for commercial export and sale.

Once again, I do not know if there are farms or not, I know what I’ve been told. I started on this because I think the numbers of ITs for sale in Chatuchak market don’t add up with fish being caught in the wild. I can also appreciate this type of rumor has been done over and over before. I would like to know myself though and living here makes it easier for me to find out.
Thanks CC
 
Thanks for following through. I find this topic very interesting. I too beleive they are breeding IT and NTT. There are just too many going aroung to be all WC.
 
Ade;3875408; said:
Nice one mate, it's good that your checking this out further, regardless wether it's for yourself or other members. most if not all members will be eager to hear of your feedback.

Re, "no pics no proof".... Well that's just the way I am. In my line of work, I question eveything and tend not to beleive everything I hear.
Equally, there's no dissing those who beleive in captive breeding.

Anyway, end of the day , I do hope this turns out to be thread of the year. Hope the visit reveals all.
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Finally a reasonable person!

I firmly believe that they have been bred, whether naturally or with hormones. What I don't know is if it is done commercially. I think it is a VERY safe bet to say that Universities or Government facilities have bred Datnioides species in captivity... There's no reason to suggest they haven't since that is exactly what they do...

I know they breed Trout, Salmon, Sunfish (including Bass) and other game fish in captivity like crazy here in the USA in hatcheries.
 
classic-chassis;3878048; said:
I have just been to the Faculty of Fisheries at Kasersat University. I told them i was a freelace writer and wanted to do an article on the plight of the ST. They were very helpful and obviously the main line of questioning was about the ST.
The last place it was found in the wild (semi) was at a fresh water lake called Bungporapetch in Nakronsawan provice. That is a lake used by the DOF for conservation. There are no more 100% wild STs in the lake. In the wild it is 100% extinct.
The DOF sponsor a Lab at the lake and there is a breeding program, however it is experimental and for STs It has met with limited success. The staff in the office phoned the facility to find out the information. Members of the public are not permitted to view unless given a permit from the Director of the DOF first.
You will not be seeing STs on the market any time soon, if ever.


The staff and I also spoke briefly about ITs and the numbers available in BKK. They told me even though the fish look the same they are not the same. They told me impossible to import for sale and that they are captive bred in farms. The same with NTTs. By “the staff” I mean people who are qualified aqua-biologists of one form or another.

I am still going to phone and visit the farm on the website link, and will try my hardest to find an IT farm if that farm does not have them.
I do actually know someone who could help me get a permit to visit the facility in Nakornsawan, but that’s asking big favors and at this point I’m not prepared to do that just to prove something I know is a fact to people I don’t know.
However, if there are IT and NTT farms and I see them (with pictures for you guys) I may well go and visit because I feel there is a very interesting magazine article in there, especially if ITs are farmed here for commercial export and sale.

Once again, I do not know if there are farms or not, I know what I’ve been told. I started on this because I think the numbers of ITs for sale in Chatuchak market don’t add up with fish being caught in the wild. I can also appreciate this type of rumor has been done over and over before. I would like to know myself though and living here makes it easier for me to find out.
Thanks CC
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Awesome!

Let's just hope people don't start shouting "What, no tape recorder? Conversation didn't happen..." LOL
 
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