Bristlenose Plecos

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20 long with caves would be a minimum for a 1m/2f group, and you'd need a second tank to raise the babies etc. I'd probably aim for a 40 breeder to start. More stable and more space for babies.

Aquatic Arts will 100% accept locally bred stock in trade if you can get something neat going. Find some nice stock on here or ebay or aquabid and see what happens.
 
Cool company, but almost everything i looked at says low stock, only 3 remaining, or 4 remaining etc. They have some super red bristlenose but only 2 available. I was thinking of i could get a decent batch from them then i could sell the babies off to my local store, indy is a bit of a drive for me, probably be upside down on gas and time rather than profitable to try to sell to them. But I'll keep checking in, not too far to drive for a single pickup if they get a decent stock in.
 
I think they're online order only. Just set up the alerts for when they get stuff in stock and wait for stuff you like and hope. Their stock is highly variable but always solid and healthy.

Selling/trading to them they'll send you a shipping label. You might get a bit less value but you also won't have to figure it out.
 
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Milingu said:
The important part is the count of the soft rays in the dorsal fin. 8 or more soft rays occur only in the group of the "white seam" Ancistrus and in no other Ancistrus species outside of this group. 9 or more soft rays only occur in A. dolichopterus. Which is widely accepted among ichthyologists.
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Only problem is that they also believe that from gene testing there are populations of A.dolichopterus with 8 soft rays also.
 
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Initially I was sceptical about the information at first which all originated from talking with Rebecca Bentley, an ichthyology volunteer at the Natural History Museum in London. I knew that she had previously done a really good article on the gene tracing of bristlenose plecs and the colour formations with regards to recessive and dominant genes along with the idea of a long fin dominance gene.
She mentioned that Ancistrus dolichopterus had been studied and found with populations of 8 soft ray individuals, 9 soft ray individuals and populations of mixed, 8 and 9 soft ray individuals.
Then pulling up different papers and catch reports I kept coming across reports which also seemed to verify the idea.

One example below.

 
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