oh, i hadn't realized they got 2 foot a piece.. excuse my ignorance. i was just spitballing after all, some ca/sa cichlids were suggested to me in another stocking thread in the general forum so i figured id ask the experts what i could get away with. i only gravitated towards those two (umbee, dovii) because the seemed the most prevalent in the "most aggressive" sticky.. i suppose i could definitely do without them though. perhaps a couple of the others, my current 2' JD and maybe an equally small jag if i could swing it and a school of other smaller whatevers would be more my speed.. thanks for the information though