Can Anybody Figure Out These API Levels?

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scorp;4316157;4316157 said:
and here we go again...

Not a decent advice, seriously! That's hit and miss nothing else, do some research please.

bjbass, here's another thread for advice:

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119963
You may want to do research yourself. As your used filter idea is basically the same as tetra safestart. Both are just utilizing bacteria colonies. One is active, one is in stasis.
 
I wouldn't recommend adding all those fish at once, but safe start is a good idea. Just wait it out, and it will go down.
 
I think I might now being nearing the end? Here are my levels today. Is there a little green in that ammonia?

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I would say 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 10 nitrate, and ph 6.6.

My PH was up at like 7.8 when I started. Should I use some PH up or something to take it up again? I think it dropped when I added the aquarium salt to treat my smallmouth bass. I would think somewhere like 7.6 should be good for the bass.
 
scorp;4316157; said:
and here we go again...

Not a decent advice, seriously! That's hit and miss nothing else, do some research please.


Honestly that was excellent advice I gave, you were joking right? I thort so since you can't be serious. You are such a kidder :ROFL:

bjbass you are there. Hopefully the fish were not too discomforted by this but a lot of us have and will go thru the same situation. We all learn from these instances.

Looks like you need to buffer that tank, the ph might be crashing. Only time will tell but to be on the safe side get yourself a GH/ KH kit and see where your hardness is, it might be as simple as just adding some baking soda or epsom salt.
 
bjbass;4320743;4320743 said:
I think I might now being nearing the end? Here are my levels today. Is there a little green in that ammonia?

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I would say 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 10 nitrate, and ph 6.6.

My PH was up at like 7.8 when I started. Should I use some PH up or something to take it up again? I think it dropped when I added the aquarium salt to treat my smallmouth bass. I would think somewhere like 7.6 should be good for the bass.
yup, looks like youre done! when nitrites go, they go fast. it takes some time but theyll disappear almost overnight. now just do a water change and started adding fish slowly :)
 
I agree with jcardona1. Do a water change, then stock your tank. Just don't add too many too fast and you'll be fine going forward.

I would NOT use buffer to raise the ph as it then becomes a rollercoaster that will never really be stable. Just keep up with with your water changes. Stable ph that's low is almost always better than ph that keeps going up and down. Besides, most fish in fish stores today can handle 6.6 ph just fine.
 
scorp;4313221; said:
OK, so as usual, companies trying to make money...

I've never used anything to cycle in more than 20 years, except used filters, decoration and water from my other tanks and never had any bacteria bloom, high nitrites/nitrates or anything.

Patience! The keyword for happy fishkeeping. Give it a couple of weeks in the beginning and never worry about it again.

Seachem makes some great products . . . they didn't tell him to do anything unusual, and they didn't try to sell him other products . . . Stability is meant to be used in a new tank so that fish can be added safely, to make the cycling process quicker and safer . . . it's not necessary by any means, but I don't see anything indicating Seachem took advantage of him

oh, and by the way, companies are supposed to make money, and the best way to do it is by selling products that work . . . this guy's experience sounds like Seachem tried to help theut he best they could, but he was using it wrong - - it's not meant for "fishless cycle" - - and probably wasting much of it

and no way you could spend "a ton of money" on Stability unless your wasting it, it costs <$10 for a 250ml bottle that treats 115G . . . so he could have done it for just $20 . . .
 
Gervahlt;4321101; said:
I agree with jcardona1. Do a water change, then stock your tank. Just don't add too many too fast and you'll be fine going forward.

I would NOT use buffer to raise the ph as it then becomes a rollercoaster that will never really be stable. Just keep up with with your water changes. Stable ph that's low is almost always better than ph that keeps going up and down. Besides, most fish in fish stores today can handle 6.6 ph just fine.

I agree. A stable pH is safer than a constantly changing one.
 
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