Can clown loaches do this?

[Ihsnshaik]

So a buddy of mine sold me 12 loaches he quarantined them for me when he got them from a distributer a week ago. All is well I saw them and looked good no sign of ich.

I come home and I usually quarantine them but I know they were quarantined already so I added them to my tank. They have ich all over them and wasn't present in his home. Can ich really form that quickly due to stress on clown loaches? I'm worried about my Rays now more than the loaches. I don't want to dose my tank with salt but I can bump the heat up.

Is this normal for loaches I did some research seems like they're more susceptible to ich than most species

 

[ECW]

I've had similar experiences. I've brought home seemingly healthy clowns and noticed they
break out almost everytime. They look fine and then a couple days later... bam! Ich outbreak. Definitely one of the most ich prone species of fish in the hobby... good thing ich is pretty easy to deal with.
For the most part the ich on the clowns doesn't spread to the other fishes in the tank, or at least I don't give it a chance.

 

[Ihsnshaik]

I've had similar experiences. I've brought home seemingly healthy clowns and noticed they
break out almost everytime. They look fine and then a couple days later... bam! Ich outbreak. Definitely one of the most ich prone species of fish in the hobby... good thing ich is pretty easy to deal with.
For the most part the ich on the clowns doesn't spread to the other fishes in the tank, or at least I don't give it a chance.

I don't really give a damn about the loaches to be honest I'm worried about my rays really lol

They're sensitive to salt both rays and loaches so kind of scared to treat the tank with salt. I usually use normal table salt and does the trick but afraid now.

Funny thing is same buddy who had three larger loaches I bought two weeks were fine.

Some pictures of the loaches

 

[Hoplo]

Can you turn the temperature up, usually when the temp is above 30 celsius it usually kills off the ich.

 

[Ihsnshaik]

Can you turn the temperature up, usually when the temp is above 30 celsius it usually kills off the ich.

It's at 78 don't want to hit it up that high I don't know if my rays will like that high temp they're still pups.

 

[Oddball]

The temp needs to be above 84 to have any effect on ich. Make sure you boost aeration since warmer water holds less dissolved O2. If you wish to treat with meds, I recommend Maroxy. It's an anti-fungal that's mild enough to use on fish eggs. I've treated all of my 'scale-less' species with Maroxy with good results.

 

[FunWow!]

You can quarantine clowns but meds will have no effect on ich unless it's on the outside of the fish. Pretty sure ich will stay under the skin of a fish for who knows how long until conditions are right for it to show itself. Just do what Oddball said to kill it off.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

meds have no effect until the encysted parasites fall off the fish and begin looking for new hosts in a free swimming state. As stated, follow Oddballs instructions, never used that med but if he has then I'd endorse it.

 

[Oddball]

Forgot to mention that whenever you treat for ich, follow the entire regimen (water changes to reduce free-swimming population, temp, and full dose meds) for an additional week to 10 days after treatment. That's due to the visible ich being only one stage in the pathogen's life cycle.

And, as with all fungal infections, keep an eye open for any secondary bacterial infection from the scarring made by sub-dermal fungal mycelia.

 

[Ihsnshaik]

Forgot to mention that whenever you treat for ich, follow the entire regimen (water changes to reduce free-swimming population, temp, and full dose meds) for an additional week to 10 days after treatment. That's due to the visible ich being only one stage in the pathogen's life cycle.

And, as with all fungal infections, keep an eye open for any secondary bacterial infection from the scarring made by sub-dermal fungal mycelia.

This would be my second outbreak ever of ich and both caused by fish from an lfs and now a buddy of mine. I treated ich before I added salt yest and highered temps. I raised it to only 82 but I will raise it to 86 when I get back from work. I have a hospital tank which I didn't use. I informed my buddy of the situation and he started to treat his tank as well.

I only noticed the ich because one of them flashed and then I inspected it very closely and all have it on them. I knew the second I put them in the tank it wouldn't matter the whole tank needs to be treated now regardless of the situation. One loach is so bad on one side but not worried about it since I started doing the heat and salt method. If I don't see improvement in a week I will start meds.

I'm going to do a 50% water change like I had planned for today when I get home and add salt and raise the temp even higher.

I'm not worried that they won't get better I've dealt with this but I was kind of shocked how the loaches only got it in his tank and then I read even more loaches are susceptible to ich compared to most fish.

I was afraid to use meds due to loaches being scaleless and most importantly my stingrays.

Thanks everyone for their input just upset I got this in my tank.

Also since it was visible the ich the white spot on the loaches will they be free swimming in the tank by now after a day? Should I wait on the water change until the white spots disappear? I usually do a water change when I treated for ich right after they started to look better so they don't reproduce again.