All stages of the ich life-cycle are occurring at the same time. So, don't wait to treat. Ich pathogens could have already been in the system since they can come in the municipal water system. The catalyst to cause an outbreak is as simple as disrupting the protective slime layer on the fish, when the fish were netted, to allow the pathogen to get a foot-hold on the newly unprotected areas.
Can clown loaches do this?
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Yeah I'm going to treat it asap once I get back home. How do I clean my net now? Should I boil water and let it into a bucket and let the net soak in there?
There are aquarium disinfectants available. However, I've always soaked my aquarium eqpt (nets, scrapers, scrub pads) in just a saturated solution of salt. Just add salt to warm water to the saturation point (the point where no more salt will dissolve into solution). There aren't too many organisms that can survive in a saline solution that concentrated.
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My buddy who had 30 in his tank died the morning he gave me the loaches. 6-7 died of mine and no bodies so my rays ate it. Now all are dead. They died not from me they died from ICH but died within 24 hours of me having it so its tough luck.
Im worried will my ray die from this? I know rays cant get ich but they eat "live feeders" with ich. I treated the tank and my rays look healthy actually way more active I think since they constantly waiting for a loach to die.
Im also worried about my 3-4" CL they got it now and flashing. I treated the tank already just a waiting game.
I added salt dissolved in a cup and add it slowly to the tank. Been doing that ever since I saw the ich.
My buddy now knows why he got a steal of a price for so many loaches lol He had them for 2-3 days and died and I had them for less than a day and half died then the rest soon after. 40$ for 12 loaches at 1-1.5" was a good deal at the time but became very expensive feeders.
My buddy who had 30 in his tank died the morning he gave me the loaches. 6-7 died of mine and no bodies so my rays ate it. Now all are dead. They died not from me they died from ICH but died within 24 hours of me having it so its tough luck.
Im worried will my ray die from this? I know rays cant get ich but they eat "live feeders" with ich. I treated the tank and my rays look healthy actually way more active I think since they constantly waiting for a loach to die.
Im also worried about my 3-4" CL they got it now and flashing. I treated the tank already just a waiting game.
I added salt dissolved in a cup and add it slowly to the tank. Been doing that ever since I saw the ich.
My buddy now knows why he got a steal of a price for so many loaches lol He had them for 2-3 days and died and I had them for less than a day and half died then the rest soon after. 40$ for 12 loaches at 1-1.5" was a good deal at the time but became very expensive feeders.
I am sorry to hear your bad luck of introducing ick from new clown loaches. I share your grieve as I lost all three of my decade old 8+ inch clown loaches last week to ick. It all started after I introduced a dozen CA juvies from my grow out tank, which I treated with ick a month ago. I examined the juvies carefully that there were no symptoms of ick before I introduced them to the clown loach tank. I was wrong. Two weeks later, symptoms of ick showed up by behavior and a few white dots in one fish. I immediately administered Super Ick Cure (malachite green and formalin combo) which I have successfully treated ick on CL many times before. But this time I was out of luck because I had to go out of town two days after treatment. When I returned home 4 days later, the CL were peppered with white dots, heavily breathing, and all 3 died in three days. All other fish are healthy with no symptoms.
The lesson I learned is that fish can carry low level of ick infection with no external symptoms for weeks. Some claim that ick spores are always present in the tank and waiting for stress to break out. I have never experienced ick outbreak spontaneously without introducing new fish, so I am doubtful the claim is proven.
CL is magnet to ick and is fatal if not treated early and continue long enough, at least a week, to root out the disease. I have no problem using MG treatment on my scaleless bristle nose at full dosage. CL is actually not scaleless but has very small scales. But the label says that MG should not be used for Elephant nose or Rays so you have to look for alternative treatment, such as salt or copper. I would remove the CL and treat them separately from your Rays.
The lesson I learned is that fish can carry low level of ick infection with no external symptoms for weeks. Some claim that ick spores are always present in the tank and waiting for stress to break out. I have never experienced ick outbreak spontaneously without introducing new fish, so I am doubtful the claim is proven.
CL is magnet to ick and is fatal if not treated early and continue long enough, at least a week, to root out the disease. I have no problem using MG treatment on my scaleless bristle nose at full dosage. CL is actually not scaleless but has very small scales. But the label says that MG should not be used for Elephant nose or Rays so you have to look for alternative treatment, such as salt or copper. I would remove the CL and treat them separately from your Rays.
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Dang sorry to hear about your loss. Yeah I might take the CL out in a few days if I see no improvement. I know they're flashing but treatment is still going on. I think I'm going to stay away from loaches now lol
I have read that in many places as well, never saw the backing for it though, as the single time in years of fish keeping I have had that one of my tanks got ich was because I rushed and tossed in a ghost knife into the tank. Within 48hrs knife was dead and 2 of the other fish had ich. After treating for a while, they all lived and ich disappeared. Went back to the store to return it and was told they had ich. I was pissed.
i can tell you that Ick can pop up on loatche's and EEL's very FAST! not sure about rays. I have had great Luck curing ick by adding salt , raising temp, using quick cure (no idea if this is safe for rays) and water changes. Ick is aggressive and I treat it aggressively! I havent had it in quite a while but the last few times I got it was from adding new Scaleless fish to my tanks
