can my oscar live in a 60 gallon tank for life

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I only really had a problem with plecostic or whatever his username is, and all the people saying this tank size was okay for an oscar for life. If you don't have experience with the fish in question, don't just type whatever you feel like typing just move on. Fish are friends not ornaments. =p
 
plecostic ........
An adult oscar will live a miserable life in a 60 gallon tank, as will any fish that has the potential to reach 14-16" in captivity.
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Says who you ? A 16 inch Oscar can be very happy in a 60 gallon tank, i've seen many large fish in tanks that were smaller do very well. If I were to give the OP an answer, I'd say Yes, try it out and if you think later on that he needs an upgrade then do it. One large fish in a 60 gallon is not a big deal if the fish is fine with it. It's about the fish not about what you think is good for the fish. What is a 60 about 4ft in length 3ft ? That's plenty of room for a 16 inch fish. Not trying to burst your bubble just trying to keep things in perspective. There's too much fear mongering in the world of fish keeping. Just by keeping fish in an aquarium or any pet in a home your committing the biggest sin anyway. Not everyone can afford a 20,000 gallon tank for 1 fish. Telling them to take the fish back to the store is an absurd idea, same goes for telling them no you can't have that fish.
 
Plecostic, you did read that the Oscar already has HITH, right?
You're taking the losing side of this argument. No one is saying he needs a 20,000 gallon tank for one fish. We are just saying that people need to be realistic and do the research before putting a fish in a tank that they intend on keeping the fish in for life that is going to ultimately be too small for the fish.
 
Says who you ? A 16 inch Oscar can be very happy in a 60 gallon tank, i've seen many large fish in tanks that were smaller do very well. If I were to give the OP an answer, I'd say Yes, try it out and if you think later on that he needs an upgrade then do it. One large fish in a 60 gallon is not a big deal if the fish is fine with it. It's about the fish not about what you think is good for the fish. What is a 60 about 4ft in length 3ft ? That's plenty of room for a 16 inch fish. Not trying to burst your bubble just trying to keep things in perspective. There's too much fear mongering in the world of fish keeping. Just by keeping fish in an aquarium or any pet in a home your committing the biggest sin anyway. Not everyone can afford a 20,000 gallon tank for 1 fish. Telling them to take the fish back to the store is an absurd idea, same goes for telling them no you can't have that fish.
You're an idiot... The length of the tank isn't the biggest problem, the width is... a 16 inch oscar can't even comfortably turn around in a 60 gallon tank that is 12 inches wide. just stop posting, you make yourself look worse every time. No one is saying 20 thousand gallons is needed, but for an adult oscar a 60 gallon is ridiculous to consider okay for life especially if you care for the fish, and if you don't don't bother getting one it deserves better than you. I wish so much that in this case you were right so I could move on but you're giving people miss information that could lead to people keeping large fish in deplorable conditions. goodnight
 
A 4ft, 65 gallon tank that is 18" front to back is great for a few smaller species that can be just as stunning if not more than a single specimen tank. More so with Rams, Nigerian red kribensis and sdomething else such as other dwarf cichlids. Dwarf cichlids usually only need about 12" square of territory to defend so you could potentially have quite a few kinds or a few of the same to add lots of colour. Add that with species like dwarf gourami, cherry barbs, ottos and maybe a small frog pleco or panaque maccus and you would have a very diverse (not a biotope though) tank with lots of different patterns and colour.
Planting in this would make it even more dramatric IMO.
The possibilities are endless, you don't always need large fish to be monster here.



Plecostic. Experience has taught people here that a fish that has the potential to hit 15+" is not going to be comfortable in anything less than a 4ft tank but even a 4x2x2 will be dubious in the long term as oscars are cruisers rather than cave dwellers. No one is saying you need a massive tank of ridiculous proportions but you do need to ensure the home is longer than a little over 3 times the fishes body length, less with oscars if some of the reports are true of 18" beasts. For a cruising fish only having twice its body length empty for cruising is poor at best, fine for a very temporary tank but not for life. Couple that with the depth of Oscaroo's tank and a fully grown oscar would hardly be able to turn around. Hardly humane.
Take how messy they are too and you would need to do water changes at least 50% twice weekly with a regular filter on or probably once a week with a sump of equal size to the tank or a couple of very large filters which would make getting a larger tank cheaper anyway.

I understand you won't back down because of pride and not wanting to look like an ass so if I were you I would just keep quiet because you are beginning to make yourself look ridiculous. There is a lot of experience here saying its bad long term and you are basically saying a combined experience of probably at least a hundred years is wrong and you are right.

Just because it can be done does not mean it should be done.
 
my oscar is only eight inches long and I will probily get a 75 gallon tank for my birthday.
 
oscaroo .......... if'n I was you, I'd quit planning on tanks that you don't have, and quit listening to the minority.
Also, IMHO, a 75 gallon isn't an ideal long term tank for an oscar either. It's better than your current tank due to the longer length, but IMO is still far from ideal for an adult O.

The ultimate irony is that I see you are already giving advice to other people about min tank sizes, and the fish they should keep. What you should be doing is spending less time posting on forums, and more time reading, researching, and learning about what works, and what typically doesn't. Most experienced oscar keepers would never recommend keeping an oscar long term in a tank the size of yours. In the end you will have a far better experience in this hobby if you start small, and work your way up to monster sized fish. Here's a place that you may want to start with your research. http://www.oscarfish.com/




well I messed up converting the sqare inches into gallons and found out it was a 65 gallon. PS my 65 gallon is 18 inches deep witch gives him plenty of room to turn around in

my 55 gallon is not a standerd 55 gallon. it is deeper and taller than a standerd 55 gallon and is about 2-2 half feed long

Best case scenario this tank is a 65 gallon, worse case scenario it's a 50 gallon, either way it sounds like it's only 36" long, and 18" wide. Just so everyone is on the same page as to what size this tank is.


plecostic .......... previously you stated;
Best advice is to to be realistic about your fish keeping goals. It's perfectly fine to keep oscar in a smaller tank, once they out grow it, you can always upgrade and use the smaller tank for other fish or whatever.

Which I think was very sound advice. Considering this fish is most likely the OP's first fish, and first fish tank, and certainly their first oscar, do you really think that encouraging a fish that has the potential to reach 16", and produce a ton of waste, being kept in a tank this size for its entire life, is being realistic? I see oscars being returned to LFS's in my area on a regular basis, and it is almost always due to the fact that the owner is a young person, with little fishkeeping experience, and who got in way over their head. Too large of fish, too small of tank, and too much work to keep the water parameters stable. In the end the fish suffer, many become sick (such as the OP's fish) and some die before even having the option to rehome them. I've seen enough oscars with severe HITH to last me a lifetime.

I don't see your advice as being realistic, I see it being very unrealistic, as most people new to the hobby are not disciplined enough to pull this type of a set up off successfully. This is why I cringe when I see stores such as PetSmart selling cute little juvie oscars, pacus, etc, as realistically I know that the vast majority of the fish purchased at those stores are going to end up in the hands of someone that has no idea what these fish require over the long haul.

Either way I'm not going to go round & round attempting to tell anyone what they should, or should not do.
With any luck oscaroo will take some of the advice that has been given here & become a better fishkeeper for it.

Cheers
 
most people say oscars need a 75-90 gallon tank minnumum.

are you f%^&*ng retarded? You have 3 threads FULL of advice on what to do and YOU ARE STILL ARGUING and giving what you think is the right answer?

Like RD. said, QUIT giving advice to others...and I think you should take up eating paste, counting toothpicks or finding some other forum to TROLL because at this point, thats what you appear to be.
 
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