Can Someone ID this Fish for Me?

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Jason_S;3170835; said:
Jellybean convicts are not short bodied convicts...they are a cross between blood parrots and pink convicts. Breeding farms wanted a way to breed blood parrots but this is very difficult because the majority of males are sterile. Females, however, can usually breed with other species, most commonly male midas or RD.

However, because of the high fertility rate of convicts, someone got the idea to cross fertile female blood parrots with male Pink cons. This threw fry that had a much higher percentage of fertile males. These are sometimes dyed but often are sold in the pink coloration they are usually born with as you see in the pics.

Some of the fry have more of a blood parrot look while others look more like pink cons. You can see the differences though between the fish above and pure cons if you look close enough. The mouth looks to be a little higher than it should be and the body is proportionally rounder than a normal convict.

I do believe these to be hybrids. :)

I, personally, don't believe these are hybrids. There are short-bodied strains of fish out there, GT, Molly, flagfish, kissing gourami, etc. That breed true despite not being crossed to a BP.
I never noticed a shortage of Bloodparrots before "jellybean" cons came around so whatever "their" secret is to breeding them will stay theirs. I don't think JB cons are it.
If you've ever spawned a "jellybean" or short-bodied convict to a regular convict they will result in regular convict offspring. No odd hybrid looking throwbacks. Males are not sterile.
 
like I said, just my opinion but any time I've seen mention of jellybean cons or jellybean parrots, the fish in question was always a BP x pink con. This thread is the first I've heard of short-bodied cons being referred to as jellybean cons.

Either way, I never meant to infer that there was a shortage of blood parrots. I guess, to be honest, I can't definitively say why BP's were crossed to cons because, like you said, there's not a shortage of them or anything. Perhaps the farms wanted another way to get a similar result in a much easier manner than whatever the process is for obtaining regular BP's.

So as far as that goes I do not know. I do know, however, that typically jellybean refers to the crossing of BP x convict and when an LFS sells a fish as a jellybean and it has an odd body shape, well I mean if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....but that's just my $0.02 :)
 
I think it depends on the area where you live, hence the problem with common names. Around here, jellybeans are indeed BPxcon crosses as many of the stores/breeder do it.
 
darth pike;3171507; said:
I think it depends on the area where you live, hence the problem with common names. Around here, jellybeans are indeed BPxcon crosses as many of the stores/breeder do it.

This is true.
Simply speaking in the case of OP's fish however my opinion is that there is a defference between a "JB" parrot and "JB" con and I believe OP's fish is a JB con. It seems that the only defference between a BP and a JB parrot is the light base coloration of the body and the fact that they are dyed. I suppose they could be crossed with cons for a lighter body color and smaller size but I have not seen that this is always the case.

I have seen small light-colored parrots referred to as "Jellybean parrots".
5-4-06147-InjectBP.jpg

http://www.x-entertainment.com/updates/pics/parrots.jpg
http://cichlidresearch.com/gifs/parrot/Lipstick_parrot_DSC_0041.JPG
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/images/karengray_dyedparrots.jpg

Then i have seen "Jellybean/Bubblegum Parrots/Convicts" that look like this:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/...ternetzi/Cichlids/convictmixbreedingcolor.jpg
http://acuario.drpez.com/acuario3/acuario_graf3/acu_art2feb8_06.jpg

IMO the latter being just a convict. I won't say pure as most any TR convict in the hobby is far from "pure" but I doubt there has to be any parrot blood in it to make it a short-bodied fish. Simply my observation and my .02. Take with a grain of salt. :)
 
yea theyre jellybean convicts and yes they can breed theyre breeding machines lol
 
MonsterFishKeepers.com