Can you sex this Jag? Photo inside...
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did you buy the other 2?, and do you have pics of them.terd ferguson;1169458; said:I told the owner of the store I wanted a managuense, jaguar. He ordered three from a big time distrbuter in Atlanta (the one he always gets fish from, I haven't seen too many mislabled and when they are it's a "common name" type of mistake). I have no reason to doubt it's a jag.
Let me get some more shots...
I read the title and seen the pic..2+2=5 me thinks
I know my jags and my doviis but this don't look like either of them
I know my jags and my doviis but this don't look like either of them
---XR---;1169455; said:
The red you're seeing on the gills is the inside of his gills. The photos are also kind showing a tinge of yellow. There is NO yellow in real life.
Give me a minute to see if the new pics turned out any better.
In real life, here in front of the tank, the colors are not the same as show up in the photos. I'll try to describe the coloration as best as I can and then show some more photos.
First, there is no red anywhere on this fish except inside his gills. Second, there is no yellow anywhere of this fish. The base color is like a olive/tannish and the markings/patterns/stripes are black.
Check out the photos and see what you think. If it's not a jag, what have I got? To me, it looks like the "Southern Morph Jag" on cichlid-forums' profile page. It looks more like the Southern Morph jag than any of the other Parachromis examples (remember, in real life there is no yellow or red on my fish).
Closer to his real color, but still not quite right...
Closeup of his face (a little blurry)...
With flash (colors are kind of deceiving, no yellow, more olive/tannish)...
So if it's not a jag, what is it? Thanks very much once again for your help and thanks for this great forum.
First, there is no red anywhere on this fish except inside his gills. Second, there is no yellow anywhere of this fish. The base color is like a olive/tannish and the markings/patterns/stripes are black.
Check out the photos and see what you think. If it's not a jag, what have I got? To me, it looks like the "Southern Morph Jag" on cichlid-forums' profile page. It looks more like the Southern Morph jag than any of the other Parachromis examples (remember, in real life there is no yellow or red on my fish).
Closer to his real color, but still not quite right...
Closeup of his face (a little blurry)...
With flash (colors are kind of deceiving, no yellow, more olive/tannish)...
So if it's not a jag, what is it? Thanks very much once again for your help and thanks for this great forum.
That is a female motaguense. I am 1000000% sure that that is motaguense. Here is my old male mota and my jag now you compare them. Both of them are around 6" but the mota passed on though. First three are motaguense and the last three are the jag.
yes im sure you got a mota perhaps a one of? if you dont like you can always take it back and trade it for a diff jag althoguh youll probs get another mota, sorry to be (not the first to tell you but every one else is right) im gunna have to go 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% mota! also i think its looks female..?
Cross127;1169591; said:
Thanks for the pics. That really helps. I agree with you and the others about it being a mota. Mine looks almost exactly like the second mota pic you posted.
It could be that when the guy ordered the fish someone spoke wrong, wrote it down wrong or just picked the wrong fish to ship. I couldn't really judge the fish at the store. I was there when the boxes came in and they had just finished an obviously stressful van ride (I'm 5 hours from Atlanta). The three motas (previously jags, lol.) were almost solid white when they arrived. I pciked the healthiest looking of the three. One had a bunch of scales mssing and at the bottom of the bag (I assume there was some combat along the ride).
I've been keeping Africans for a while now, but this is my first venture into CA/SA cichlids. I'm learning as much as I can with the help of you guys, and I do appreciate the help. No worries though, the female mota was on my stock list as well.
I can't fault the owner of the fish store, the fish had almost no color when it got there. But, I'll be happy with the mota and keep looking for a jag.Well don't mix any guapotes unless you have an 8 foot tank excluding dovii. A jag and a Mota will not get along in any tank under 8 feet even then they will fight constantly. That Mota of mine died because my Salvini killed it because it looked closely related as Salvini's are considered mini guapote because of the same mouth and body structure and some of the same markings. When you are dealing with Jags and other large Guapotes aggression between them is unreal. GL on the female Mota.
