Can't increase pushup reps. Increase in chinups, core strength. Pushups stuck at 20

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Oh, thanks for the explanation. I should have just read all the info the first time. I'm used to charts that explain themselves, but I found the answers in the text. I'm surprised by how few it asks us to do.
 
svang55;5049457; said:
I'll take all that info of "science" with a grain of salt

if a trainer told me i should only work on my pecs once every 5-7 days i'd say he wants me to slowly improve to prolong his job

again, i'm no expert but i can tell you what my experience is and what worked for me. i max out on the bench right now at about 250. if I was to start this week, and bench only once a week, I'd hit 300 probably by end of the year if that. but if I benched mon, wed, fri, I guarantee I'll hit 300 by summer

check out former 7x Mr Olympia's workout schedule, it's not hard to find. yes, i'm referring to Arnold, i'll take his workout routine (similar to what I recommended previously) over the "scientist's" routine (once every 5-7 days)

this is also what Arnold has said about how your body can become used to a workout:

He recommended 48 hours of rest after working larger muscle groups and slightly less for the smaller ones. He also felt that as your training level progressed, you'd be able to handle more work with less recovery time and could tolerate more frequent workouts.

it's all good as long as you're not working out with delayed onset muscular soreness. if you start tearing your muscles that are trying to rebuild you will go backwards in progression. Muscles need to rest and repair
 
Liam;5050082; said:
when i work out i need the 5-7 days. 60 mins on chest absolutely smashes you. it's just how hard you push yourself and your particular preference. I could loose the intensity and repeat the same work out a few days later and get the same results. After 60 mins, your chest is jelly and the next few days you can't press anything :D


Sounds similar to my old routine, the day after you'll feel fine but the second day the soreness breaks in
 
BTW, I always loved The Maxx movie.

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bbortko;5047434; said:
You should only train a body part once every 5-7 days except abs and calves which can be done daily. The purpose of lifting is to destroy your muscles, your gains come over the subsequent days in which the muscles heals itself. Since push-UPS are a compound movement you need to strengthen every muscle involve especially delta and tris. The most important thing to remember is that your mind will tell you your done before your body is actually exhausted, if you don't dig deep and get those couple of extra reps you will never get stronger.

48hrs is enough rest. 5-7 days rest is if you've got power lifting status lifting 600+ raw

knife what is your goal exactly?

if your trying to get big and strong check out this forum and get the books http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/forum.php
its the bench mark strength program. it does work

if your trying to get stronger at your bw now maybe try something like crossfit. im sure they can spare some knowledge with push ups

coffee is fine to drink. lots of cals and caffeine. i drink it before workouts to help bring me up
 
No, I don't want to look like a pile of meat. I just want to be stronger. Would cross-fit work with the above-mentioned routines?
 
knifegill;5050088; said:
Oh, thanks for the explanation. I should have just read all the info the first time. I'm used to charts that explain themselves, but I found the answers in the text. I'm surprised by how few it asks us to do.

Yeah, it was pretty confusing the first time I looked at it too. And don't worry, the numbers will jump up pretty quickly. Its all about building from a base. I'm actually only on week 3 and I'm going to repeat that week since I don't feel like I can complete all the sets properly...

knifegill;5051127; said:
BTW, I always loved The Maxx movie.

911.jpg

Yeah man! Most people don't recognize it... oh the Isz!
 
knifegill;5051887; said:
No, I don't want to look like a pile of meat. I just want to be stronger. Would cross-fit work with the above-mentioned routines?


Im not an expert on cross fit etc. you'd have to ask a cross fitter. i just know coach rips strength training programs. do have a few mates that do cross fit and they're strong for their size

if it was me i'd do starting strength/ then cut back on the cals. you'd get strong real quick. then cut the cals and loose the fat. your lifts shouldnt change. you wont turn into a freak of a meat head that quick but you will get bigger. thats just my 2c

you have to diet and sleep well. when your going to pushup 21 do you try your absolute hardest or do you loose it the very last split second?
 
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