Captive breeding of RARE fish ?????????????
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Awesome man!!! Angels are not "talked about" much on here, so it's nice to hear. I've always liked them.
Anyone ever try to breed archers? I'm going to try as soon as I get a good tank and some good stock. I bought one, but the day after it got ick(or ich, or however it's spelled). Then, a week later, it got better and just randomly died AFTER eating all of my fish.
davo;889092; said:
Yes indeed but I've had mine for about a year and they are still not mature enough. Panaques are just plain slow!
As oddball mentioned, part of the reason why hobbyists aren't distributing more 'rarish' captive bred fish into the hands of other hobbyists is because in many cases it just takes forever to get results. If I ever get rare pleco fry in my tanks I might just keep them all as a reward for my hard work LOL
this is a very easy question,its stuoid to breed anything in usa,the cost/profit ratio is too low,you will never be able to compete with oversea breders on price,with their cheap shii$t labor,they'll bang you to death!
ilub = I wanted to clarify that this wasn't in reference to competing with anyone - just the satisfaction of breeding a rare (or difficult) fish, and it is an enriching experience.
As for the guy with archers - that's really cool! I don't think that has been done, and I don't even think anyone knows much about their breeding behavior in the wild. Nice!
As for the guy with archers - that's really cool! I don't think that has been done, and I don't even think anyone knows much about their breeding behavior in the wild. Nice!
i am tryin to get my hands on a group of lubrigus species pikes. one reported breeding of marmorata and no others. tank is set up and am waitin for stock i can afford. i plan to mimic natural environment and diet as close as possible and go from there. i think it is very admirable for the dedicated hobbyist that are doin this to devote the time effort and cash involved.
The trick to breeding big fish is big space. If you have a basement that is open for your use(not occupied) you can build plywood/wooden framed ponds. You basically set up 36"-40" deep framing at lengths of 12-20 linear feet long that are about 36" wide. Once the framing is assembled wrap it in Styrofoam sheeting. Then add a pond liner and you are done. Use submersible mag drive pumps at one end and PVC pipe the outlets to the other end. Make the flow linear like a river. Then aquascape as necessary for breeding. Slate rocks, PVC tubes, large clay pots, etc. Control temp with room temps. I have done this before for people with big fish.
The reason for the larger set up is some fish require a minimum of 24'X24" of substrate just for a breeding pit! Bluegills, pumpkinseeds, and some larger cichlids. Other fish are much like plecs in that they like to have a current that faces them, like a river. Some fish need to run up stream to spawn.
If you have the space these types of set-ups can be sized to suit your individual needs and make great tanks! Remember, breeding tanks are about function, not beauty.(they can be beautifully landscaped if you want, though)
Another idea to use is your local fish club. Go in 3-4 ways with club members and do a breeding program. One guy sets up the big tank. Another guy handles the fry, and the last 2 guys take care of grow out and distribution. The work and space is divided! You just need some hobby friends!
Saltydog_1 and I have kicked around breeding zebra plecs and other hard to get fish. I have some space and he has a little too. Our problem is our wives don't want multiple tanks! When I was a single, childless man I really had some fish!!!! Right now I am under 200. At one time a friend and I rented out 2 side by side apartments and filled them with tanks! The rent was cheaper than a commercial property back then!
This is very do able in a community like MFK! 4 guys is all you need! The fish will ship fine if packaged right so the 4 people don't need to live near each other. They just need to trust each other. Friends are friends. Friends with fish are GREAT friends!
The reason for the larger set up is some fish require a minimum of 24'X24" of substrate just for a breeding pit! Bluegills, pumpkinseeds, and some larger cichlids. Other fish are much like plecs in that they like to have a current that faces them, like a river. Some fish need to run up stream to spawn.
If you have the space these types of set-ups can be sized to suit your individual needs and make great tanks! Remember, breeding tanks are about function, not beauty.(they can be beautifully landscaped if you want, though)
Another idea to use is your local fish club. Go in 3-4 ways with club members and do a breeding program. One guy sets up the big tank. Another guy handles the fry, and the last 2 guys take care of grow out and distribution. The work and space is divided! You just need some hobby friends!
Saltydog_1 and I have kicked around breeding zebra plecs and other hard to get fish. I have some space and he has a little too. Our problem is our wives don't want multiple tanks! When I was a single, childless man I really had some fish!!!! Right now I am under 200. At one time a friend and I rented out 2 side by side apartments and filled them with tanks! The rent was cheaper than a commercial property back then!
This is very do able in a community like MFK! 4 guys is all you need! The fish will ship fine if packaged right so the 4 people don't need to live near each other. They just need to trust each other. Friends are friends. Friends with fish are GREAT friends!
Where did everyone go on this?
I thought I added some good suggestions here to talk about and possibly set-up a MFK project with about 4 or 5 guys!
Any thoughts????
I thought I added some good suggestions here to talk about and possibly set-up a MFK project with about 4 or 5 guys!
Any thoughts????
Mr.Firemouth;981231; said:
I love the thought !
I have little around 400 gallons.
working on cycling/setting-up/decorating my 9 tanks for breeding.
gathering equipment and stock.
I like red devils/midas ,ghost/black/clown knife (don't think you can easily breed knife fish).
I also like clown loaches and LFS charges way to much for them.
eels and puffers are another example of "wish I could afford" ,Love watching them at LFS.
