what up chris , i talked to u the other day u were in market. when i called i didnt know i would actually get a hold of you. u were busy u know lfe and u gave me minutes of your time. thats ,offical,,, even though u were busy , u know n love these angelic beasts. thanx for da insight n da patience. word on da haters get used to it WHEN u make accomplishments , there there 2x but others c 2 , u get respect for da find n for the hobby, and what a beautiful one it is. i deciding right now on buying, jus browsing info on gorillus blue. this been on my mind all week.talking to u 4 made keep in mind my goal as my fishkeeper ,,and the gorillus thrown in da mix. i have a 225 gal with a varity cichz 2, 4 inches all aggressive but get along ,i have a 55 gal for my growout tank , anyway we talked bout once it grows 10 inches or more it will change ,before or later but my cichz (cihlids) i dont want to be sparring partners wit big blue, or some one bold enough to challenge him n he die too. there mean but cant take liplocks being that umbee s mouths are differnt then other cichz ,cant eat if it gets damaged . anyway ill either sell my exotic crew. or i ll get male gorillus blue and female gorillus black but definitely 1 or other. chris thanx for more options in da hobby. phk da haters chris good dude