I’ve seen them listed as Thai Green Texas. Just super line bred for the kok. I’m sure they use them to get SRT as well.
Carpintas Escondido??
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Or catch location, carpintis are the more southern species, cyanoguttatus is the one actually found in Texas (and parts of Mexico). So calling carpintis a Texas cichlid of any color is misleading. Knowledgeable importers typically know catch location, but there are fewer of those kind of guys around than there used to be.
Thanks everyone. I completely agree with everyone’s thoughts here. Just for clarity, the fish first pictured don’t belong to my friend. He just sent me the pic off a retailers FB page. The retailer is looking for pre-orders to “bring them in”, labeled as jumbo green Texas 
The 2 fish pictures are males. The females in the video are much smaller and look more akin to the traditional shape, but since they’re likely coming from Asia somewhere, are likely hybrids also.
The 2 fish pictures are males. The females in the video are much smaller and look more akin to the traditional shape, but since they’re likely coming from Asia somewhere, are likely hybrids also.
Although many aquarists may have the impression, location variants are just about looks, there is much more at stake in these adaptations.
The Lagoona Chairel variation (that I kept) is influenced by weather patterns, and inundations from the sea, that more inland population do not necessarily experience..
Winds and storms sometimes bring cold, saline conditions, that require the Chairel population to evolve differently.
Lagoona Chairel being every close to the Gulf of Mexicop is somewhat brackish during the dry season, and winds drop water temps significantly, and pH rises above 8..
Whereas during the rainy season, when influenced by torrents from inland rivers conditions are quite different.
That survival of the fittest gaunlet has toughened its populations, to survive pH and salinity variation some other population may not need to have evolved in.
I have tried these carpintus in my ponds in Milwaukee, where water temps dropped onto the 50s'F (Teens C) with seemingly little effect.
Its not just about color, or iridescence but about a robustness in health tolerance.
The Lagoona Chairel variation (that I kept) is influenced by weather patterns, and inundations from the sea, that more inland population do not necessarily experience..
Winds and storms sometimes bring cold, saline conditions, that require the Chairel population to evolve differently.
Lagoona Chairel being every close to the Gulf of Mexicop is somewhat brackish during the dry season, and winds drop water temps significantly, and pH rises above 8..
Whereas during the rainy season, when influenced by torrents from inland rivers conditions are quite different.
That survival of the fittest gaunlet has toughened its populations, to survive pH and salinity variation some other population may not need to have evolved in.
I have tried these carpintus in my ponds in Milwaukee, where water temps dropped onto the 50s'F (Teens C) with seemingly little effect.
Its not just about color, or iridescence but about a robustness in health tolerance.
Thanks
duanes
Very good info. My LFS here in Cincinnati has some labeled as H. C. Escondido atm. They’re 2” juvies. I’m gonna talk to him about his source to see if it’s possible to verify the label through the breeder/supplier.
I appreciate everyone’s feedback on this thread!
Happy Memorial Day. Thanks to all those who have fallen in the line of duty, and their families. We will remember!
duanes
Very good info. My LFS here in Cincinnati has some labeled as H. C. Escondido atm. They’re 2” juvies. I’m gonna talk to him about his source to see if it’s possible to verify the label through the breeder/supplier. I appreciate everyone’s feedback on this thread!
Happy Memorial Day. Thanks to all those who have fallen in the line of duty, and their families. We will remember!
Tangle up with Cichlid has been in operation for 30 years, changed ownership once, and shut down in February this year. I purchased fish from Jeff when he first started. Is there any reliable American cichlid importer left after Jeff.
I agree that the big hump green Texas in the post is likely Flowerhorn. I’ve seen blue Texas in ponds in Texas and they don’t have FH size hump. BTW, the common name green and blue Texas is misleading as green are found only in Mexico and blue are not exclusively found in Texas.
I agree that the big hump green Texas in the post is likely Flowerhorn. I’ve seen blue Texas in ponds in Texas and they don’t have FH size hump. BTW, the common name green and blue Texas is misleading as green are found only in Mexico and blue are not exclusively found in Texas.
