Central American biotype scenario options???

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That is a tank from an MFK member named fish_n_vw. He big time researches bio types and is now in the process of raising some live bearers from some of the regions he is trying to set up, to go with his cichlids. I dont think he has that current set up any more.

I had to wonder if a guy with a tank like this wouldn't be on MFK somewhere. He did a great job! I'll have to look him up and pick his brain.

I just bought some sunburst wag platys yesterday to raise and reproduce in my 29 for feeders hopefully and introduce a few at a time and see if they can be self sustaining at some point in one of my bigger aquariums, but maybe that's just hopeful thinking they'll survive. Also bought a jag too! Excited about the little guy. He/She survived the night so that's good! Probably gonna need to thin down the herd eventually but in the mean time things are going well. We'll see! Thanks for the input. Please keep it coming.
 
I just typed out such a long reply and accidently clilcked the reply to thread button instead of the post quick reply down there. aarrggghhhhh!!
 
Alright, first off, thanks for kind response on both youtube as well as in pm. DMD is correct in this tank is no longer setup. I agree with Aclockwork on the research, it is vital to setting up a biotope. The more you do, the better you will be able to recreate nature. And really, nature already did it, we cant do it better then nature. Our job is to recreate it in our homes. Many people dont take the time to put together a biotope, they instead do research in other areas though. And each of us kind of have our niche in the hobby. I like biotopes, its what I do. I dont know why, but it is just more appealing to me. Aclockwork gave a great example of two lakes from the area you are intrested in, I would go with one of them or Lake Managua is good as well. Also, its fun to pick a habitat within the lake or water system. For instance, there is very little info on a fish I keep from Lake Nicaragua. A. sp "red" Isletas, but what we do know about it is, it is only found in one area of the lake and the area it is found in is mostly sandy/muddy shallows by a beach area with some rock here and there around the beach. Well since that is what I had to go off of I thought to myself, with know useful area of the lake going to wasit, I am sure the rocks are used to spawn on. I then looked at my list of cichlid species from the lake to find another sand dwelling species that would appreciate the rocks here and there. And decided to go with nicaraguensis. These guys use the sand to spawn instead of the rocks. So then my brain goes to cohabitation, how the fish get along with other fish. I make sure the two fish I decided on can handle eachothers level of aggression. If that checks out I go to the next one territory, can I create definate bondries within the tank, that are both natural, as well as purposeful. Well, with both being sand dwelling cichlids, obviously, lots of sand with a few rocks here and there in the tank with some distance between them will give them natural lines and points in which to establish as a specific territory. And then food, well thats easy, NLS is perfect for all fish so its an easy decision for me. Last is spawning, is there enough spawning locations for both potential pairs. Well in the case of rock/cave spawners I like to provide 2or3 per pair. But with the two I chose for this setup, they will never have a dispute over a spawning site since one spawns on rocks, and the other spawns in sand pits. That is not to say they wont fight over an area within the tank that might be the "perfect" spot in the sand, that happens to be right next to the "perfect" rock in the tank. But that all comes down to tank size. I dont know if i got side tracked or if I stayed the course here, my brain goes a million miles a second. But there is my response, please keep us up to date on your biotope. Cheers.
 
I just typed out such a long reply and accidently clilcked the reply to thread button instead of the post quick reply down there. aarrggghhhhh!!

Suck.... Thanks for the response, and you're very welcome. That is some good info to think about. It may be a bit of a slow process for me in moving things that direction, but I think I'd really enjoy it. My wife and I just had a baby last week so time and money are of the essence, very limited. I thought about moving my one midas from my 90 to my 125 and putting my GT's & raph cats from the 125 to the 90. Then at least I would have an all CA and an all SA tank. However, I am afraid that this particular midas may leave a wake of death in his path and I would get nowhere besides losing fish. At this point i think I would like to try to do my 125 as a crater lake such as lake managua where I can keep some slightly bigger species and maybe move my 90 toward a few mexican species like my couple salvini and a carpinte vontehillo and call it good.

Fish, the 125 gallon tank off youtube I posted, how long did you have that set up with those fish and how long did it keep working out?
 
Theres one perfect way of doing a biotope tank and thats with having a solo/pair of fish as the only fish in the tank.

Heres my 5 biotopes that all work perfectly:
Lake Nicaragua: Dovii Male (solo)
Lake Nicaragua: Amphilophus Labiatum Male (solo)
Rio Danto/La Ceiba Honduras: Parachromis Friedrichsthalii sp. La Ceiba (pair)
Rio Choluteca Honduras: Amphilophus Hogaboomorum (solo)
Rio Magdalena Columbia: Caquetaia Umbriferum (pair)

I know its the cheesy way out but i dont have to deal with aggression (outside of marital disputes) and my fish have adequete room neccessary to house larger cichlids. The big problem with biotopes imo is having the space for all the fish to coexist properly and when dealing with larger ca/sa cichlids space is a must.
Rio Magdalena Columbia: Caquetaia Umbriferum (pair)
 
Fishman is absolutly right in what he posted. It is the easiest way to set up a biotope. I really like to see all the interaction. So I typicly try and steer cleer of the known very aggresive species like dovii and umbee.

As far as my tank setup goes. It was that way for about 6ish months. Then it looked really cramped so I pulled some. And when I pulled some of the fish, my jag pair destroyed a few fish. Overstock, although not recomended, does have its positives.

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