Channa Bleheri or sp.Assam?

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Hi,

all of you, this is Heiko Bleher, and I guess I do not have to introduce myself, or repeat that I discovered the Channa bleheri (and many others) and brought the first ones back a life and introduced them into the hobby.

I really have to say: thank you Uli, you speak from my heart. It is more than frustrating to always find people who do not read, inform them selfs (unless only on the web, which is becoming more and more a nucanse as people believe everything they read on the web...).
Pascal did a very good job by showing the differences and he really showed the fish I discovered and he identified it correctly (and his Channa bleheri is quite big, I have never seen it that big in nature, but that is almost normal, as most fishes grow larger and longer in well kept captivity than in nature).

So this is correct what he explained. Thank you. I just wonder why you write: "...nearly no one was at the habitat"... I was there and collected it and gave the specimens to Vierke who described them. Naturally he was not there and he was not the one who collected them, it was me. I collected it in 1987/88 for the first time and it was published (also for the first time) in October issue of TFH in 1988 (page 60). I went back and Vierke described it finally in 1991. After he had also breed it (very unique behavior of breeding. Interesting is, that you found out the temperatures, as in Assam were I discovered it, temperatures drop to less than 15 degrees Celcius in winter and go up to 28 and more in summer. The funny thing is, when I found it, and showed it to local people, they said it is the large Channa, and will grow to 1 meter and more, and they laughed at me when i said this is a different, dwarf species... But I found this with many native people around the world, that is why small species are still the most ot there to discover. last year alone, I am sure I found two new dwarf Channa in southwestern India, and I found tiny dwarf killi fish species, less than 15mm Tl and a catfish with less even, as well as other tiny new fish species from several groups (all together about 30 new ones from 4 continents - out of 3000 collected species).

A few things (but very little) one can see on my site:
www.aquapress-bleher.com
under expeditions, or Latest news, biography, etc.

So, to Pascal, keep up the good work and correct your Channa bleheri text. And to MagnusM: believe Pascal, he is correct, and everything else is wrong.

best regards from the discoverer, and good luck with the beauty (and look up the TFH issue).

Always

Heiko Bleher
www.aquapress-bleher.com
www.aqua-aquapress.com
 
baloo;1632094; said:
why not?
palle went through the trouble to clearly explain in words and pictures why this fish is a lal cheng or spec. assam if you prefer to call it so
and after all that someone comes along and says exactly different showing he has clearly no idea on how to differentiate those 2 fish

it is really easy to get worked up about this
it is the exact reason why i stopped bothering with most boards these days
i'm not an expert as some like to say, but i know a thing or 2 about channa and when palle cares to explain something i pay attention
that man is one of the few channa enthusiasts who knows exactly, and i stress exactly, what he is talking about.
mainly first hand experience
you all should count yourselfs lucky he botheres posting here passing on what he knows

maybe you think i'm overreacting but it can get so frustrating you wanna bash your head against a wall
Phew!
 
pallestopheles;1626950; said:
Hi........

IT IS NOT A BLEHERI!!!

It is Channa spec Assam,or Lal Cheng!

Bleheri has a spotted caudal fin................it is so easy do see.........

I do not know why erveybody has so many problems with this 2 species!

Here are pictures of both species:
1. bleheri-spotted caudal fin
2. Lal cheng-red band around caudal fin!


And if I do not know it for sure........I would not tell it!

Pascal
So is this Bleheri?
 
Hello,Dennis........

This is the same fish you have posted a picture of in another Thread........

So, i can tell you that this is not a Channa bleheri!

bleheri has no pelvic fins!!!!

also asiatica and orientalis have not!!!

The one your picture is showing is what we call Channa gachua!!!

for my opinion it is a gachua from the indian type,because of the red stripe underaneath the eye!

also I thin it could be from the bengal area,because of the blueish colour of the operculum!
i have seen such gachua types from there!!!

But no matter what type of Ch. gachua it will be.......it is definitly not a bleheri!!!

If you will read my snakehead keeping conditions Thread you might find out something about your snakehead!!!

There is something wirtten about different gachua types!!
Not every gachua is just a gachua.......it is a species Complex!!!
It is the same with Channa marulia types....and mybe many types of Channa more!!!

We only know the tip of an iceberg yet!!!

@ Mr. Bleher..........
Thank you very much for your support!
Mybe you do not remember..but we know each other!!!
We have meet at the Zajac Messe in Duisburg some years ago!!!
I was the guy of the Labyrinthfischforum Stand!!!

Also I am a member of the IGL (internationale Gemeinschaft für Labyrinthfische),my number is 302.........

I will contact you,if this will be okay for you as soon as possible,because I have some questions about the bleheri habitat......and I have the feeling you might be the right man for asking!!!

Thanx a lot!!!

Pascal Antler
 
Hi,

this again is Heiko Bleher, Pascal you can contact me naturally in German also (and French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese, Suaheli, but not Manadarin).

My website (with all addresses and e-mails): www.aquapress-bleher.com
You can also see an good Assam Biotope on Bleher's Biotopes when you go to AQUA-XPO 2001

Best regards

Heiko Bleher
 
wow are all the fish stores doing this now
i just bought a channa assam which was posted at the fish store as bleheri it really pissed me off that it was not a bleheri and on top of that the pet store wouldint give me full credit for selling me the wrong fish
 
100%not bleheri.... look at the tail, bleheri's are famous for that orange tail with the black spots, assams have streaks running down their fins so i guess assam
 
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