Channel Cat with Gars?

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dmopar74;1702689; said:
are you talking bout african aro's? the trust has 3 of em 16+", not cheap though.

Yeah, I'm talking about african arowanas.

Are Jed's for sale? I remember hearing something about them being for sale, then they were not for sale?
 
AttackFish;1702698; said:
Yeah, I'm talking about african arowanas.

Are Jed's for sale? I remember hearing something about them being for sale, then they were not for sale?

he told me he'd sell em if someone remembered he has them.;)
 
they should take it fine, and why not wait for them to come into season? if yr in the US, i don't think a 3-5" pc goes for very ex there. and they're pretty easy to care for IMO...just loads of frequent feedings, and relativly clean water.

keep us updated:)
 
xander13;1702727; said:
they should take it fine, and why not wait for them to come into season? if yr in the US, i don't think a 3-5" pc goes for very ex there. and they're pretty easy to care for IMO...just loads of frequent feedings, and relativly clean water.

keep us updated:)

Yeah, I will probably wait.
I've seen vendors here on MFK sell 10'' for $100 that are already feeding on small pieces of smelt!

I'm just reluctant to buy a 5'' with the constant all-day feeding it might be hard to do with work/school getting in the way.

But with a 10'' a once in the morning/once at night feeding is more manageable.

I've got alot more research to do on African aro's.
 
i had one on feedings twice a day from 2.5" till now(12"), no problems, grew from 2.5" up to 10" in 3-4months :)
 
xander13;1702818; said:
i had one on feedings twice a day from 2.5" till now(12"), no problems, grew from 2.5" up to 10" in 3-4months :)

Are they really that easy?

Most things I read are saying extremely hard to care for and all that, but from what I read on primitive fish and from you, makes it seem like I could do it pretty easy.

I just dont know what tank I'd put such a small aro in, smallest tank I have is a 35 but it's going to be housing a gulper cat soon. I guess I could divide the tank in half for a while?
 
AttackFish;1702830; said:
Are they really that easy?

Most things I read are saying extremely hard to care for and all that, but from what I read on primitive fish and from you, makes it seem like I could do it pretty easy.

I just dont know what tank I'd put such a small aro in, smallest tank I have is a 35 but it's going to be housing a gulper cat soon. I guess I could divide the tank in half for a while?

they aren't necessarily easy, but they aren't terribly challenging either...the key is knowing the important info for their care, and that makes things much less complicated. i would go by the primitivefish.com info and you should be fine...the key is feeding them very frequently when young (i was doing 2x a day, although 3x would work as well) with live blackworms, that way some will live in the substrate and they can forage during the day even if you're not there to feed them.
also, they should get frequent water changes for optimal growth; i'd suggest raising a small one in a 10-20g tank and doing a 50% water change every day or every other day. they will shoot up to 8-10" within a matter of two months give or take. frequent feedings of the right food and frequent large water changes are keys to their survival. they are prone to ick, but can be easily treated with quick cure or other formalin based meds.

since they are coming into season, i would raise one up (purchase 3 or so so you can make sure at least one survives; you can always sell off the others) as it would be cheaper than buying a large one. although if you wanted a larger one go for jed's as they are impressive specimens.

i've raised up many of these and they are a great fish and will also get along well with gars, bichirs, etc. hope that helps!--
--solomon
 
I'm liking this african aro idea too, I'll have to look into them a bit more. Didn't realize they grew that fast though, that's pretty impressive.
 
Thanks a ton solomon!
I'll get a 20 gallon long and 3x african aro's.

I was thinking of dividing my 35 and keeping my gulper cat on the other side of the divider, but housing the aro's in there own tank will be easier.
For filtration I was thinking of getting a sponge filter and connecting it to a powerhead. That way food particles will stick to the sponge filter.

I've read, and re-read all the info on primitive fish, and will keep that info stored for further referance.

I'm really liking how they grow so fast, they'll be swimming with the gar in not time!
If I do get three and they all survive, I may keep them for quite a while.
Might not even sell them!

At 10-11'' they would be ok to add into the 180 correct?
Heck, now I'm thinking if all three aro's survive I might not even bother with the gars.
Might just get a few polypterus to go along with the aro's.
Primitive african tank. :headbang2
 
sounds like a cool plan for the tank. i would caution, however, that young african arows do not get along with siblings at all...they need to eat constantly just to stay alive, but it seems that they are often more interested in fighting and will kill each other/starve to death in the process.

i would suggest getting a 10g and a 20g and divide the 20g so you can keep each arow in "10 gallons" of water. or get a long enough tank that you can divide it into three parts. this way the arows are separated yet can still be treated with the same water changes, etc. i've done this before with little africans in separate tanks and divided tanks and it worked out just fine.

as for the sponge filter, you'd be fine with just the sponge filter without the powerhead...the africans do better with less current and the sponge will eventually draw food to it anyway.

another thing to add is to have just a very thing layer of sand or (my preference) small gravel on the tank bottom. this will allow the live black worms to reside in the substrate yet be easy enough for the fish to find.

guess this has somewhat derailed off the original topic, but let me know if you have any other questions. definitely an awesome species, hope to pick up another batch sometime in the future--
--solomon
 
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