Check out these long fined severums?

[fishfreak317]

To me, natural is a term directed towards a species that can successfully thrive in the wild without external interference.

explain this more for us half illiterate ppl out there.

also just cause someone shows us a pic of some long fined sevs. don't mean you have to turn this into moral obligations of fish keepers and the effects of hybrids on the hobby.

i'm glad that we all now know your feelings about keeping your "natural" fish in your 1 glass box that your fish will prolly outgrow soon enough.

 

[japes]

explain this more for us half illiterate ppl out there.

How is it hard to comprehend? If these morphs or variations are a natural phenomenon why are they not readily available in the wild? They aren't a practical or viable way to survive. Angels would never breed with Severums for example, as they're located in different parts of South America. This may not be the morph pictured in the original post but it's an example.

also just cause someone shows us a pic of some long fined sevs. don't mean you have to turn this into moral obligations of fish keepers and the effects of hybrids on the hobby.

I was questioned about a statement I made, which I answered. It was part of the answer for said question.

i'm glad that we all now know your feelings about keeping your "natural" fish in your 1 glass box that your fish will prolly outgrow soon enough.

I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or just naive, because I've already stated that it's unnatural in a similar manner in my previous post; which you couldn't comprehend. I'm smart enough with my stocking that I won't have any problems with my fish outgrowing their 'glass box' because I'm dedicated enough to research and plan my endeavors into this hobby.

 

[fishfreak317]

How is it hard to comprehend? If these morphs or variations are a natural phenomenon why are they not readily available in the wild? They aren't a practical or viable way to survive. Angels would never breed with Severums for example, as they're located in different parts of South America. This may not be the morph pictured in the original post but it's an example.

i was just asking questions on your choice of particular wording. because i got confused wile reading it. i do agree with some of what you said.

I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or just naive, because I've already stated that it's unnatural in a similar manner in my previous post; which you couldn't comprehend. I'm smart enough with my stocking that I won't have any problems with my fish outgrowing their 'glass box' because I'm dedicated enough to research and plan my endeavors into this hobby.

i was being a bit sarcastic. my bad. if you have such strong convections on fish keeping then why do you keep fish? and indirectly "feeding the need" and that produces these un-natural fish.

 

[japes]

i was being a bit sarcastic. my bad. if you have such strong convections on fish keeping then why do you keep fish? and indirectly "feeding the need" and that produces these un-natural fish.

As a hobby, just like everyone else

I hardly feel I "feed the need" for these fish, I don't purchase them. It's John and Jane Doe setting up their fancy new $1500 4' aquarium without cycling it that do. "Wow that 'things' cute, I bet that will impress the in-laws, let's pick that up honey!"

 

[cszachury]

Wow, those fish are different! Never seen anything like them and thats not a bad thing! They're pretty!

 

[fishfreak317]

i did say indirectly. you purchasing any fish "feeds the need" of the hobby as a whole. and unfortunately these morphs and hybrids or whatever do play a part of the fish keeping industry as a whole.

 

[Greenaveli]

Not my cup of tea at all.

 

[ciciwan]

 

[straitjacketstar]

i sorted it out
and im sorry to say,,but its not a real severum,,
its a heros efasciatus x severum,,or efasciatus

thats how he got that long fins

It's widely known that the common "green" or "turquoise severum" is not the true mouth-brooding Heros severus but the substrate-spawning H. efasciatus (syn. H. appendiculatus).
A cross between a sev and angel is more possible than a cross between H. efasciatus and H. severus. Just unlikely is all, and certainly not necessary to create a morph of severum with long fins.

Cross genus spawns are not impossible, in fact - quite common.

 

[windsurfer]

eeech aaggh. I agree with what Japes said.

I don't like hybrids at all - or long-finned or balloon bodied morphs for many of the same reasons Japes cited. I like to appreciate evolution as it's happened in nature by keeping natural fish in my tanks. Not by pretending that evolution is happening in my tank.

HOWEVER, I always try to be quiet and believe that each person has the right to keep whatever hybrid they want (just label it clearly and keep it out of my tanks please).

DOUBLE HOWEVER, cichlidmasterpro, you have gone ahead and asked everyones opinion, so now you are going to get mine: Those fish are culls. Folks in the hybrid section might like them. I dont' know, because I never go there.

windsurfer