Check this ray out...

[csx4236]

actually your totally incorrect,

that female is an offspring from a motoro/henlei i sold a friend of Todds who later gave it to Todd who bred it with a motoro.

this is a prime example of how you CAN NOT id and make a guess with a hybrid ray. Its just a guess and should never be spoken about like fact.

These days I see alot of uninformed people guessing the genes involved in hybrids from the rays outward appearance. Its totally unreliable and this is just one example.

Just going to change this now it's not even worth the effort and time anymore.

 

[Miles]

Hey Johm no ShxT it's just a guess how about you stop acting like a rude axxhole all the time and constantly trying to just knock people and contribute in a positive way for a change????????????????

Can't you contribute without coming off as rude or egotistical?

 

[Brent]

 

[rudy]

Who "coined" the term mantilla anyway?

 

[csx4236]

Richard Ross

 

[Miles]

Who "coined" the term mantilla anyway?

Richard Ross came up with it, as he was working with an importer from Florida named Jose Mantilla..

so the term is no better than 'teacup' IMO..