Chemtrails

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i thought this thread was gonna be about chemtrails ! oh well ... for those who think the u.s. gov't is pulling off incredible conspiracies , i think you give the gov't way too much credit . it's not like in the movies where miraculous stunts are pulled off at every turn . the gov't in reality is more often than not inefficient and often quite incompetent .
 
nikond70s;4227759;4227759 said:
i personally believe 9/11 was an inside job and was blown up by bombs from the U.S you must be the typical americans that believes the official story the media tells you. look how fast the towers fell in like 10 seconds. even if u think the towers fell from the planes....why did tower 7 fall? no plane hit it yet it free fell. just use some common sense and you would know what im talking about. you need to stop listening to the media that feeds you with bs and fear.


contrail is what the jets leave behind. chemtrail as conspiracy theorist said that it contains chemical to make people sick and who knows whats in it....they also use chemtrails for weather control. spray chemicals in the sky to make it rain.
Instead of putting down "typical Americans" and believing in conspiracy theories (90% of which came from the middle east) you need to read the article in Popular science magazine where they took a independent look using their own experts and research. Nobody believed at first that the Titanic sank as fast as it did, so your "common sense" may not have much real fact to support it.
 
papawoody;4235904;4235904 said:
i thought this thread was gonna be about chemtrails ! oh well ... for those who think the u.s. gov't is pulling off incredible conspiracies , i think you give the gov't way too much credit . it's not like in the movies where miraculous stunts are pulled off at every turn . the gov't in reality is more often than not inefficient and often quite incompetent .
After spending 10yrs in the Army serving in 3 continents.....I competely agree!!!!
 
nikond70s;4229665;4229665 said:
the rich and governments will do ANYTHING for money greed and power.
Our government lost billions of taxpaying dollars because of 9-11. If our government had done it.....it would have been leeked to the press weeks ahead of time and would have been done right before an election; and we would have chosen a country richer than Afganistan (which is the only country we invaded because of 9-11, IRAQ was because of Saddam Hussein not opening his county to UN nuclear inspectors and his saber rattling against the Us and Briiain in the Un coupled with faulty intelligence from the British). You need to do more SCIENTIFIC research instead of believing everything you read thats not mainstream media and being gullible enough to believe it. If you dont like your average American, as a veteran let me open an invitation for you to leave, Iran also believes 9-11 is a hoax....maybe its leader IM-A-NUT-JOB you could even get a job with Al-Jazeera or a similarly biased anti-American publication and you can go enjoy your new friends in the freedom of Saudi Arabia or Iran. P.S. dont let the door hit you in your -ss on the way out!!!!
 
lol you think they would tell the whole world that it was an inside job? really? you have any idea what that would cause? it was leaked its everywhere on the internet just search. sure we lost money....but they gained! lots of people questioned the event on 9/11...lots of people! but they NEVER show on the media cuz its called a cover up. thats why you gotta do your own research and not rely on the media. watch all the vids i posted...even if your not a believer those vids should of atleast question your belief of the official story.

watch each and everyone of these video's. crucial info's that most people dont know about the event on that day. watch all these vids before you call me crazy and prove me wrong.

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I watched the videos. 30 minutes of my life wasted!:irked:

All the videos provide SOME useful information about the twin towers and 911, BUT....... 1) They omit too many facts 2) Their thought process is based on inaccurate information and inaccurate theories 3) They compare apples to oranges 4) Their presumptions are inaccurate
5) Their "logic" is flawed.

How can ANYONE make an accurate assumption based on partial and inaccurate information???? :screwy:

You would have to very gullible and not have the capacity to think analytically, in my opinion, to believe 911 was a conspiracy!

"Leaked"?... or spreading lies on the internet? When one is confronted with information one has to have the ability to discern inaccurate, illogical, and distorted "information" labeled as the "truth". It never ceases to amaze me how people call lies the truth and the the truth lies! Either you are blind to the truth or you are not, the sad thing is that there are so many "blind" people running around!
 
Ok I watched all four aaaand Im calling you crazy. Heres a few reasons why:
Who are these experts giving imiginary lectures? Have you been to one? Have you verified any of their credentials? Have you met them?
All these "experts" saying the building was designed to withstand x or its impossible for y to happen are full of it. Nothing like this had ever happened and they have no data to base their theories on. Sure a bomber hit the ESB but that was in 1945! We're talking bare bones prop plane running on a diesel engine!
Never EVER base anything on eyewitness accounts. "It was like BOOM a bomb went off" is not an expert opinion and under the stress of the moment a piece of furniture falling over could seem like a bomb to these people. They're not combat vets used to the difference in sounds between collisions and explosions. My car door closing has been interpreted as a car accident by people standing nearby, Im not kidding. I drive an old car with long heavy metal doors that dont have much insulation in them anymore. I was accused of hitting someones car in a parking lot because someone walking by heard me shut my door and the person I parked next to apparently had damage.
:57 sec of part 3 it says that the dust cloud is not typical of a steel building collapsing without explosives but gives absolutely no evidence to support that. Add to that the fact that in EVERY controlled demolition they show the building seems to disappear into the ground. The bottom gives out and it folds in on itself. The Towers are the complete opposite! They crumble top down.
Who is this Scott Forbes guy they rely so heavily on in part 3? Why has he not been all over the news in the years since making these claims and why is his "interview" over a crappy phone line? Why is there no video interview?
References in part 4 to the "Pull it" orders are most likely the FD saying get out and give up on containing it not some nefarious code to bring the building down.
They again go to a phone conversation with an "expert" to confirm that "pull it" is demolitions lingo but how do we know that this person is who he says he is or that the supposed ID is the expert he claims to be. This one not only lacks video but fails to even put a face to the name.
If the Govt is so ruthless as to kill thousands of its own citizens, topple what is essentially a monument to American accomplishment, and destroy the economy, and skilled enough to set it all up without anyone having proof, (all to get some gold that MIGHT have been there) whats to stop them from erasing anyone from speaking out about it? Why are these people still alive and their crap spread all over the internet?
If you simply must believe that bombs were used to destroy the building why is it so hard to imagine that they were planted by terrorists? Why do you immeadiately assume the American govt did it?
My point is, give a camera, an editing system, a dozen or so actors, heaps of footage and spooky music and I can make you believe ANYTHING was a conspiracy.
Have a delusional day!
 
I don't think you have to be a nut to believe the doubts in the back of your head or that nagging feeling in your gut may have some substanence, but I do think its kinda of nutty to sit and swallow everything like a good compliant citizen all the time. I don't that my government is pulling strings at every turn or that they are out to get me, but I certainly believe that there are people that have tremendous pull and power over how history and the future will be made according to their wants. All this talk makes me think of 1984, the history and furture will be what is choosen to be written and read..... truth is not always the "facts" and "what really happened". In todays era of information the truth can be argued till your blue in the face and supplied with tremendous data on either side, thanks internet.
 
meghanashley;4236511; said:
I don't think you have to be a nut to believe the doubts in the back of your head or that nagging feeling in your gut may have some substance, but I do think its kinda of nutty to sit and swallow everything like a good compliant citizen all the time. I don't that my government is pulling strings at every turn or that they are out to get me, but I certainly believe that there are people that have tremendous pull and power over how history and the future will be made according to their wants. All this talk makes me think of 1984, the history and future will be what is chosen to be written and read..... truth is not always the "facts" and "what really happened". In todays era of information the truth can be argued till your blue in the face and supplied with tremendous data on either side, thanks internet.

True
 
papawoody;4235904; said:
i thought this thread was gonna be about chemtrails ! oh well ... for those who think the u.s. gov't is pulling off incredible conspiracies , i think you give the gov't way too much credit . it's not like in the movies where miraculous stunts are pulled off at every turn . the gov't in reality is more often than not inefficient and often quite incompetent .

Good point. I think conspiracy theorists think of the government as a big solid entity, not really understanding what the government consists of. More or less seeing the government as a big monster opposed to individual people.
 
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