Chocolate Cichlid Basics

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Ryansmith, you have some nice quality chocolate and super red severum. I wonder who is the boss. If your water is mildly hard and they do well, you gave me hope to try them out. I always thought that severum has similar water requirments as Discus, and won't do well in hard water. Do sevrum males get a big hump like chocolate?

Discus requiring soft, acidic water is a myth. Some wild fish will show their colors better in soft water and are more willing to spawn in soft water, but tank-bred discus accept a wide range of conditions. The key is that it's consistent. They don't like huge fluctuations in parameters. Most discus hobbyists actually raise out fry/juvenile fish in hard water because the mineral content is better for the bone/fin development. I grow out all my discus in pH 7.6. My current house has moderately hard water but my last place had a TDS of like 200ppm and the discus still grew giant and spawned. Hatching the eggs is a different story -- you often have to soften the water for the eggs to hatch properly. Otherwise they do fine in harder water.

As for the severums and chocolate cichlids, I keep them in the same tap water -- pH 7.6, gH 7, kH 5. I've bred several species of severum in this water (H. efasciatus, H. notatus, H. severus, H. sp. Atabapo, H. sp. rotkeil, etc.). As long as you keep it clean with low nitrates you should be fine. In most cases, the quality of the water is more important than the parameters... within reason, of course. You don't want to try keeping South Americans in Rift Lake conditions obviously.
 
Discus requiring soft, acidic water is a myth.
+1. Kept them some years. Mine did just as well in pH 7.6, moderate hardness as pH 6.0, soft water-- and the more moderate conditions are less work to maintain and tend to be more stable. Clean water, a tank they're comfortable in (including reasonable tankmates if you have them) and clean foods are a few keys to success ime. Discus for me were not half as fragile and not half as much work as some people make them out to be.

As for the severums and chocolate cichlids, I keep them in the same tap water -- pH 7.6, gH 7, kH 5. I've bred several species of severum in this water (H. efasciatus, H. notatus, H. severus, H. sp. Atabapo, H. sp. rotkeil, etc.). As long as you keep it clean with low nitrates you should be fine. In most cases, the quality of the water is more important than the parameters... within reason, of course. You don't want to try keeping South Americans in Rift Lake conditions obviously.
+1 again. Same as I've kept all my SAs for years, now, including some wilds. In fact, my hardness (both types) is more like 12 .
 
+1. Kept them some years. Mine did just as well in pH 7.6, moderate hardness as pH 6.0, soft water-- and the more moderate conditions are less work to maintain and tend to be more stable. Clean water, a tank they're comfortable in (including reasonable tankmates if you have them) and clean foods are a few keys to success ime. Discus for me were not half as fragile and not half as much work as some people make them out to be.

I had a pair of Chocolates.
Gave them up recently as I will be getting Discus in a few weeks. Was sad to see them go.

neutrino,
yup from my research, this is what I have found this too. Some people make out that Discus require soft water, multiple daily water changes etc.
And I have also seen people who treat Discus as they would any other fish. A weekly wc, decent food, and their fish are doing well.
 
Yes, Buddha, you have some amazing color Chocolate. Where did you get them? I bought one from Aquarium Center in Blackwood and hope that it will turn out as good as yours.
 
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