Cichla intermedia

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Its no secret, Xingu should arrive soon. Check out Michael Böttner YT page.

Ken you were right, Intermedia right now worth much more then I thought.

As far as xingu go, people have them in the states and have breeding pairs. Bottner does have the only intermedia pair that I know of. He has a total of I believe 6 intermedia. Been waiting for awhile to see an update on his intermedia pair. If anyone talks to him does anyone know if they have bred yet?


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Its no secret, Xingu should arrive soon. Check out Michael Böttner YT page.

Ken you were right, Intermedia right now worth much more then I thought.

I think you're a little late. Bottner's F1 xingus arrive two years ago. A lot of the small ones around today are F2 from these F1. I know of three members whole had successful spawning.
 
Ok so who has these hand fulls supposedly in the states?? All I keep seeing is talk but no proof by anyone. Of course they are in Asia that's where they all go. I get they are a protective species as well which makes it more risky. What I'm getting at if Oliver says he's been shipping for years since 2005? Why haven't we seen them in the Asian market yet?? If they are so flooded there with them like he says and like we see with other cichla species where are the pics?? I haven't seen an Asian markets selling intermedias in years! I think the one I saw was called river wonders or river something. So again if there are this many in captive where are the pictures?? You would think uou would have seen some pictures by now.


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I'm not saying keepers in the states have them. I'm saying several made it into the US in a recent import and I'm betting they will get exported if someone here don't pony up the asking price.
I don't think it is true to say there is a flood of them over the years. I haven't seen any.
 
Its always been a bit of a pride issue with peacock bass keepers. Its like anything, the pride of ownership is what makes one item desirable. Yes, I like above posters attitude about sharing and caring. However our society is not built on that ideology. If it was, the wealth of the country would be well distributed, at the same time we would all look somewhat alike and would not strive for individuality.

I've been on here forever., and have seen hundreds of hobbyists come and go. Years ago a group of people started this "CREAM" for cichla groups, which was an invite only cult. Now the majority of these hobbyists are nowhere to be seen. I think everyone wants to own a piece of something that is unique or meaningful, different than all the others. If cichla occelaris were the rarest bass in the world, people would be fighting for them too. Remember when kelberi were first introduced, people went nuts over them. The breeder that initially bred the Bahia kelberi made half a million in a couple of years selling them. Now that fad is over., so its on to the next item.

I remember when wild azuls were $250.00 fish. Wild xingu were $500 plus dollar fish.

As for intermedia trickling into Asia over the years, honestly, I travel to Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, and Japan almost every year, if not twice a year. also monitor and deal with fish dealers in those countries, and have seen just about zero intermedia, besides the group from Isaac at Riverwonders. BTW, he is on the FBI wanted list for skipping bail and dealing with illegal species.
 
Cichla melaniae 4. Dez. 2014: http://youtu.be/lxpJE62luHY

I know there is a lot of Xingu, but they are very nice!!!!!!

yes, he has been breeding them for years now, but he's in Germany, unless someone imports them, again. I did several times over the past few years, probably over a thousand fish.
 
Its always been a bit of a pride issue with peacock bass keepers. Its like anything, the pride of ownership is what makes one item desirable. Yes, I like above posters attitude about sharing and caring. However our society is not built on that ideology. If it was, the wealth of the country would be well distributed, at the same time we would all look somewhat alike and would not strive for individuality.

I've been on here forever., and have seen hundreds of hobbyists come and go. Years ago a group of people started this "CREAM" for cichla groups, which was an invite only cult. Now the majority of these hobbyists are nowhere to be seen. I think everyone wants to own a piece of something that is unique or meaningful, different than all the others. If cichla occelaris were the rarest bass in the world, people would be fighting for them too. Remember when kelberi were first introduced, people went nuts over them. The breeder that initially bred the Bahia kelberi made half a million in a couple of years selling them. Now that fad is over., so its on to the next item.

I remember when wild azuls were $250.00 fish. Wild xingu were $500 plus dollar fish.

As for intermedia trickling into Asia over the years, honestly, I travel to Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, and Japan almost every year, if not twice a year. also monitor and deal with fish dealers in those countries, and have seen just about zero intermedia, besides the group from Isaac at Riverwonders. BTW, he is on the FBI wanted list for skipping bail and dealing with illegal species.

Thank you so much Wes for your input!! I was waiting to hear from you!! I know You go to Asia so I was hoping you could verify this for me and you did!! Thanks again!! I will keep my fingers crossed for intermedias to land in the usa again!!


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Hey Wes, What up?
It's been a lon time!!!

I just woul tell about Japanese situation.
There is not any guy which would pay big money for the such Cichla here.
In fact, there were many F1 Xingu (melaniae) never sold out in Japan market.
As the result, some of stupid venders started selling them as wild fish.
I have seen US vender sold them as Wild ,too.

Brazillian exporters never sold and shipped for latest 5 years.

when I sent the first Wild Xingu to US friends, I think it was about 80$ or so.
Azul was bit lower price at that time. Old member of other site may remember exactly.
only Xingu Aimara was crazy price, it was $1500. However, after that Xingu aimara(real one) became $3000-4000here.

my first baby Intermedia was only $15-20 here when I got them years ago.

BTW, where is intermedia?? LOL

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Cheers,
Seiichi

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Wow that Intermedia is smoking hot Seiichi!!!!!!!!! Pinima Wow!!!!!
 
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