Cichla sp.Veneuzuela!!

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I'm pretty sure they are just a locality of of orinos. Highly doubt they are a separate species

Orino's are orino's and they will share the same traits. I have owned a Ven Orino and it doesnt look like the picture stones have given. But I will order some just to see how they will turn out to be.
 
Nope. The picture show a black line through the tail....no orino's carry that trait,
 
I had a disscussion with Rapps back in 2009 about this species and we came to a conclusion that they seem to be a cichla cf orinocensis, meaning they are in the orino family, but not an orinocensis themself.
 
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